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    It's probably my computer, but I can't tell much difference in the K-15 and Black Pearl. Maybe if they were side by side.

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    You have to have them in your hand, in daylight to see the difference.
    I think HITEK Joe is going to increase the silver to give the Black pearl more sparkle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    You have to have them in your hand, in daylight to see the difference.
    I think HITEK Joe is going to increase the silver to give the Black pearl more sparkle.

    Well, the extra sparkle is the intention. If it works or not, we will soon know.
    I am sure Ausglock will give me a hiding if it does not work.

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    Some reason my PID says when I set it at 200 C my thermometers say 450. So I have to set them to 175.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyN View Post
    Some reason my PID says when I set it at 200 C my thermometers say 450. So I have to set them to 175.
    If you are using correct probe for PID, I would trust the PID readout. That may have been one of your problems from the beginning, your thermometer may not be accurate.

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    200Deg C is 392 Deg F
    175Deg C is 347Deg F.

    Google is your friend.......
    Hooroo.
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    My oven thermometer says the oven inside is 450 If I set my PID at 200C.
    So I have to set my PID at 175 C if I want 400F. I have 2 in my oven at a time to check oven temp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyN View Post
    My oven thermometer says the oven inside is 5

    WHAT????? 5 ???? what is 5 ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by HI-TEK View Post
    If you are using correct probe for PID, I would trust the PID readout. That may have been one of your problems from the beginning, your thermometer may not be accurate.
    I wonder the same. I could try it at 200C. If I set these at the temp on the PID at 175 to get the thermometer to read 400F I need to bake for 20 min. I'm the oven to get the bullets to cook proper

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyN View Post
    I wonder the same. I could try it at 200C. If I set these at the temp on the PID at 175 to get the thermometer to read 400F I need to bake for 20 min. I'm the oven to get the bullets to cook proper
    Use the PID set temperature read out at 200C, do not use your thermometer. Your thermometer is not reading correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HI-TEK View Post
    WHAT????? 5 ???? what is 5 ????
    Sorry it was a typo.

    I had the PID at 195C and my thermometers read 425. I'm thinking of trying this for 10 min. And see where this takes me. I'm sure these thermometers are off Some as there 6.00 each. I heard the RCBS lead thermometers are off a lot when you use them in lead. I just received some Kryptonite green so I'll check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HI-TEK View Post
    Use the PID set temperature read out at 200C, do not use your thermometer. Your thermometer is not reading correctly.
    I just got a new thermocouple that is 4 inches long compared to my half inch that came with my PID. I know it was not working proper. This thermo. Prop is reading a lot better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyN View Post
    Sorry it was a typo.

    I had the PID at 195C and my thermometers read 425. I'm thinking of trying this for 10 min. And see where this takes me. I'm sure these thermometers are off Some as there 6.00 each. I heard the RCBS lead thermometers are off a lot when you use them in lead. I just received some Kryptonite green so I'll check it out.
    Do not be afraid to cook for more than 10 minutes if required. If you have correct temp readings at 195C (425F as quoted) 10-12 minutes should be OK.
    Is your coating dry?
    Test only a few, half dozen or so with first bake for 10 minutes. Repeat with same amount as used in first bake, now for 12 minutes, and compare results.
    Post pictures of both 10 minute batch and 12 minute batch, side by side after baking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HI-TEK View Post
    New Colour. It was aimed as being Black Pearl.

    Results,Attachment 186523

    Very nice, I will be buying some if/when it hits USA shores!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhead View Post
    Very nice, I will be buying some if/when it hits USA shores!
    Thanks for your kind comments.
    This is mark one version. I am hoping to tweak it to give it more Silvery glitter in Black.
    Ausglock told me, that in sunlight, there is quite a difference and noticeable when comparing the K-15 and Black Pearl. Black Pearl has Silvery glitter.
    I have yet to make up tweaked version, and hope it works.
    I am sure posting will take place, if all is well.

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    Tony, one of my PIDs came with a short screw-mount stud-type thermocouple that was supposedly a K-type, however when I mounted it in my oven the readings didn't make any sense. I changed to a 4" long K-type (my spare) and all was fine. What brand PID did you get?

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    TonyN.
    Mate.
    Sorry. But your illogical logic astounds me.

    You have a PID with a K sensor that is in the oven and displaying a temperature of 200Deg C.
    Yet you are carrying on about an unknown quality thermometer reading high?

    Why care about the Poxy thermometer????
    Jesus H Christ on the bloody cross!!!!

    USE THE BLOODY PID SENSOR!!!!!!
    Throw the thermometer to the schitehouse!!! FFS!!!!
    Bake with the PID sensor for 10 minutes. If it needs a few minutes more, DO IT!!

    I have Benchtop ovens running at 200 deg C and bake 2.5KG of bullets in 12 minutes.

    I also have a converted wall oven running at 200Deg C and will bake 5Kg of bullets in 7 1/2 minutes.

    Can you see a pattern here???

    With temp set at 200 Deg C.... Every oven will be different. YOU HAVE TO FIND THE SWEET SPOT.....FOR YOUR OVEN!!!

    No good crying about the same old things here. Nut up and do your testing and stop cheapskating it with $2 gear.

    Marky123 has finally seen the light, after crying about the coating not working. I have sorted him out. His alloy is too soft and his oven was less than perfect.
    He now has a PID on his oven and is working to get perfectly baked bullets

    Nobody can do it for you. You have to put your big boy pants on and do it yourself.
    There is more than enough instructions on here. FOLLOW THEM!!!!!!

    I use my own instructions and I get perfectly baked bullets.
    Stop being a dick and start following instructions.....
    Sorry if this hurts your feelings, But sometimes people have to be told the hard facts!!!

    If any MODS wish to castigate me for using harsh words or slinging Butt-hurt around, Please PM me.....
    Hooroo.
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    Dont beat around the bush mate,tell it straight.

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    That's me......I run a factory with 56 people... I can't afford to be vague.... call it as I see it..
    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    I buy my antimony from a foundry in 20% pre mixed ingots. I buy pure tin in little cones from the same place.
    Using COWW and the EXCEL sheet utility available for free on this site, I mix all my 9MM alloy to 94/4/2 lead/anti/tin and it works well.
    Pure antimony in powder form is useless to us home casters, its melt temp is that high, lead will be toxic at that temp required to use powdered antimony.

    Even with the 94/4/2 mix, I still waterdrop my second bake straight out of the oven. Its been over 3 years since I have seen ANY leading in either of the 4 pistols that I load for. So I am calling it a success at this point.
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