simple Hi-Tek coating

[leadman]

Larry Gibson had posted that lino will heat treat on its own so I am going to try it. IIRC I read that an alloy with antimony will HT, but arsenic makes it obtain full hardness faster. I know some have said it needs the arsenic, this is why I mixed it with 50% COWW for the first batch. I do have some reclaimed shot I can add if need be also.

[waltham41]

If you use a sstandard toaster oven it is good to have the rack that has a solid plate on the bottom with the slotted oven rack in it. I drilled holes in the solid base to help the heat circulate and it works great. I guess this rack is for broiling. My other rack for the toaster oven is a standard oven rack with the hardware cloth (1/4" mesh) and you have to really watch the temperature as the boolits right over the or under the elements can be overcooked.
If you have a Goodwill check there as I bought my convection oven from them on a 50% off day for $3.99. On the convection ovens from what I seen the fan normally only runs in the bake position so be sure to check this.

Thanks to all who answered my concern about the toaster oven. So basically with a toaster oven you have some boolits that over cook and others that don't cure right because of poor temp distribution in the oven?

[jcobb651]

Not saying that you WILL, just something to watch for. Its also a really good idea to get a thermometer to ensure the temp is what you think it is. On my convection oven 400 is really 375.

[waltham41]

so is there anybody that is doing this with just a toaster oven? Would like to hear your results.

I have an oven thermometer so I have that base covered

[w0fms]

Uh, I'd say try it. I suspect you can get it to work. Use lighter colors and it'll help....

[leadman]

I use a toaster oven and a convection oven, as posted above. The temperature may vary more in the toaster oven so put the oven thermometer and watch it thru a cylce and see how it does. You may also want to move it around on the rack to check temps.

[fixerupper]

so is there anybody that is doing this with just a toaster oven? Would like to hear your results.

I have an oven thermometer so I have that base covered

Im using a quartz element toaster oven. I posted up a pic a couple of pages back. Mine is very small with an element at the top and botom.... seems to work OK. But I am going to spring for a larger convection oven so I can do larger racks at a time.

[waltham41]

I ordered a liter of red/copper today, will try a few rounds in the toaster oven while I wait for my wife to find me a convection oven at the good will or a yard sale LOL

Thanks for the advice guys, looking forward to coating some boolits.

[Love Life]

I ordered a liter of red/copper today, will try a few rounds in the toaster oven while I wait for my wife to find me a convection oven at the good will or a yard sale LOL

Thanks for the advice guys, looking forward to coating some boolits.

Please post your goof ups. Seems everybody goofs it up on the first try or two...

[kbstenberg]

Has anyone combined there PID to there oven to get a better consistent heat?

[Ausglock]

Has anyone combined there PID to there oven to get a better consistent heat?

Waiting for the SSR to arrive. Going to PID my oven temp to see if it can be kept at a constant temp. As well as fitting another convection fan.
Currently waiting for a delivery of new experimental colours from HI-TEK. I have been casting like a demon this week, to have enough bullets to test all these new colours on. I have 4000 45 and 6000 9mm bullets ready to get coated. I really need to go mine my range again.

[LongGun1]

Has anyone combined there PID to there oven to get a better consistent heat?

I will be adding convection fans & 3 PID Controllers/SSR/etc to a dedicated 220 vac double oven (one side setup for prewarming boolits prior to coating & the main oven for baking the coating). It also has a griddle/hot plate on top (for preheating molds).

[BBQJOE]

How could someone be that stupid joe, well i guess. You could see purple wambats & green roos! I cook on back deck.

You don't think it could happen?
Just sayin'.

Wait! I do have a huge industrial sized smoker. Hmmm, mesquite smoke scented gold bullets.
I wonder if there is a market???

[gunoil]

hehehehehe

off topic: magma star blue lube bullet. ?,ya have lead then blue lube ring then lead base. How come no leading? Guess the blue is on frt & base too.

[leadman]

gunoil, If you use the magma boolit lube I am about 90% certain you will have leading. I tested about 5 commercial lubes and Magma always leaded and the velocity was always lower, up to 100 fps in handguns.
I did find a use for it though. I mix it 1/3 by weight with Carnuba Red and it withstands the heat better here in Arizona. Less sticky also.

[Ausglock]

I found that Jake's Purple Cerasin was the best of the hard lubes for hangun loads. It needs a heater to flow.

[jmoore]

Has anyone combined there PID to there oven to get a better consistent heat?

The Oster oven I bought apparently has one built in. One reason i went for the digital display, figured it would be part of the package. You can hear the elements cycling on and off quite often during the cook.

Will be likely trying out the red copper in a "lead-o-matic" S&W 624 today. That is if the range isn't underwater and I survive the 1 1/2 drive...

[gunoil]

Dang leadman, you'ed take the fun out of christmas. I gotta shoot a few of em, i just got the expensive thing! Heck of a lot better than alox.

LEADMAN, I now have two magma sizers. The new one is set up for HTS only. Always had lite leading back when i used alox. Less headache, i have enough blue star lube to last for year.



jmoore, iam gonna try green next or the best pistol color with no metal flake in it like copper or gold.

[jmoore]

Will be likely trying out the red copper in a "lead-o-matic" S&W 624 today. That is if the range isn't underwater and I survive the 1 1/2 drive...

Did i say "underwater"? How about "undermudandtrees"?




Got run off by the worry warts after only a couple of buckets. It wasn't raining at the time!






The 624 is slowly cleaning itself, thanks to the Red Copper coating, but the boolits are still a little small for it, so accuracy is not there, yet. The 629DX did well at 25 but the vertical stringing was there at 50yds again.



I'm thinking it's the trigger puller, but haven't nailed down the drama! The coating did it's part, though, even though the throats on the DX are somewhat smaller than the boolits. Shades of .45 Colt dimensional shifts...

The new brass allowed some boolit slippage under recoil, but it's probably won't be there afterwards. A light crimp will be used for new brass loads in the future.

So, it looks like the Hi Tek coating is going to make life easier. Shot some older type conventional loads as well and much prefer the coated boolits! Maybe the incoming .41 mould will mate with it's firearms better.

Need for things to dry out some before doing much casting. Rain all the time...

ETA: I can't figure out how to get rid of the photo below!

[Ausglock]

jmoore.
Crimping on coated bullets is fine.
My 357Sig loads get a very heavy crimp to stop bullet set-back. When a puller hammer is used to remove a bullet from a loaded round, there is a little bit of coating removed. But when fired there is not any sign of coating being removed. Maybe it is the pressure of firing that makes the case swell away from the bullets and doesn't hurt the coating. I fire 1000's of rounds out of the Glock35 in 357Sig and the barrel is shiny clean.

Revolver shooters here also crimp hard for 38 special, 357Mag and 44 Mag, 45LC etc etc. no sign of issues with coating removal.
So...crimp that puppy to within an inch of it's life, and see how it goes