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    shane, you have some options.
    1) you can cover the bottom of your oven with heat retaining media ie firebricks, steel,? Once the oven and the media have reached 400 degrees, then the oven will recover/return to 400 degrees faster.
    2) You could build/buy a PID to control the oven temperature
    3) you could spend $50 to $$$$$ and get a new convection oven.
    I bought a used Oster 2 shelf convection oven at a thrift store for $20 and can bake 16 lbs of bullets at a time in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conditor22 View Post
    shane, you have some options.
    1) you can cover the bottom of your oven with heat retaining media ie firebricks, steel,? Once the oven and the media have reached 400 degrees, then the oven will recover/return to 400 degrees faster.
    2) You could build/buy a PID to control the oven temperature
    3) you could spend $50 to $$$$$ and get a new convection oven.
    I bought a used Oster 2 shelf convection oven at a thrift store for $20 and can bake 16 lbs of bullets at a time in it.
    I'll try that thanks. I'll try the firebrick. The oven is new

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    Shane... have you read the Do's and Don'ts thread??
    Hooroo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomsticks Firearms View Post
    Forgive my ignorance but why would you coat 12 gauge slugs for are they not going to be in a wad which it rides in?
    Color coding.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    Shane... have you read the Do's and Don'ts thread??
    No sir, I'll lik for it. Been busy sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you.

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    Hooroo.
    Regards, Trevor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petander View Post
    Color coding.
    good answer useful with HiTek and PC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    I recall this post. It is great. It mainly deals with Liquid Hi-Tek coating.

    May be, another post would be beneficial where it describes the use and techniques of the Powdered Hi-Tek coatings.

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    The actual coating and baking process is the same.
    Just easier to mix with the powder than the liquid.
    Hooroo.
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    I really like the look of that TMG Gold coating. If enough of us contact Donnie "High-Performance Boolit Coatings" he'll bring some in with his next order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conditor22 View Post
    I really like the look of that TMG Gold coating. If enough of us contact Donnie "High-Performance Boolit Coatings" he'll bring some in with his next order.

    Only small batches have been made, and supplied to various people. One commercial caster uses it here.
    The major problem is, that this stuff is 3 plus times the cost of normal coatings.
    I have been working on it and have developed a Hybrid that works and looks the same as the TMG but continues to be about twice the price of the other coatings.

    The TMG hybrid is the one being posted on this blog.
    I have been thinking of sending Donnie, a kilo or two by Air Freight for consumer comments. However, the makers of various ingredients seem not to want to co-operate with small quantity purchases.
    I have not given up with this project.

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    I find the TMG is too close to 1035 Gold to warrant using the TMG.
    Even Sunny Gold is too close to TMG.
    Hooroo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    I find the TMG is too close to 1035 Gold to warrant using the TMG.
    Even Sunny Gold is too close to TMG.
    I agree to an extent. Colours are similar, but the TMG system uses totally different materials and is more bright in daylight than both 1035 and Sunny Golds.

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    Hmmm.... Might have to mix some to try to get a brighter Kryptonite green.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    Hmmm.... Might have to mix some to try to get a brighter Kryptonite green.

    I may have to contact Petander to get some rare metals to add to the alloy, may be some Plutonium, or Radium, and it will glow in the dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HI-TEK View Post
    I may have to contact Petander to get some rare metals to add to the alloy, may be some Plutonium, or Radium, and it will glow in the dark.
    He he hee...

    I love TMG for the ultimate ease and durability. I can make thicker coats,tough,elastic.

    This most probably has something to do with my alloy,even when it's cleaned I had a hard time with Zombie Green. It always wipes a little,even when seriously bronze-overbaked.

    But now I found some ingots that don't react with Acid Test at all and even ZG is good.

    Attachment 233146.

    TMG still has an edge,my space-age multi-contaminant alloy loves it. I can mix,coat and bake almost without measuring anything or using a timer,always great results. Really wide temperature window,too.

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    So beginning to see a list of advantages for the TMG. May be easier to use with success based on Petanders post.

    In my opinion the 1035 Gold is as good as anything I have tried so far.

    Joe
    Does volume decrease the price very much? Say Donnie had a pre-order for customers of five kilo, would that lower the price?
    While I work at it, it is by God's grace that it happens. So it is best I ask him what, how and when before I start..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger442 View Post
    So beginning to see a list of advantages for the TMG. May be easier to use with success based on Petanders post.

    In my opinion the 1035 Gold is as good as anything I have tried so far.

    Joe
    Does volume decrease the price very much? Say Donnie had a pre-order for customers of five kilo, would that lower the price?

    Hi Avenger, (Happy and a prosperous new year to you and your family)

    I always price my products based on commercial volumes. 5 kilos would not even be considered as commercial volume.
    Donnie takes hundreds of kilos of various colours.
    Main things that are also against me at present is very small demand of the TMG/composite in comparison to other colours. I will have to purchase thousands of dollars worth of materials in standard packs, with no guarantee of volume sales for years.
    The USD is strong, and we are charged in USD and the AUSD is very weak and so we pay a lot more for materials.
    Even the normal coloured coatings prices have increased by 20% simply due to exchange rate movements against AUSD.
    Sending a couple of kilos to the US for consumer testing is achievable, but costs to send such material/weight costs cannot be added to product costs as it would be very cost prohibitive.
    My suggestion in previous blog was to send the 1-2 kilos to Donnie for local testing.
    We have not discussed this with Donnie at this stage.

    There was a shipment sent in December to Donnie, which should be in US in about two to 3 weeks.
    Unfortunately as it is gone we cannot add the TMG/Composite with that sea freight.

    Next shipment may be months away , and is up to Donnie when that occurs.

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    Joe, too many of us this is a hobby, to you, Donnie and several others it is a business. I understand business and don't want anyone losing money on this. I'd pay double for TMAG gold if it came to that but I can (and have ) lived without it.

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    Just wanted to pop in and say how awesome K15 black has been for me!
    I have coated everything from 22-250 (reduced loads round 2000 fps) to 30 Mauser, to 45acp to 375 H&H (Full magnum loads gas checked) and have never had any leading, or residue in the barrel.
    Best part is I don't have to worry about over baking it, it just stays black.
    Put it in the oven at 200 C and cook it till it passes the wipe test. Don't worry about over baking it.

    Still never could get the Blue to work out, always came out green.
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