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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGrunt View Post
    How come we only get 12 colors here in the US?
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    Well, it is an easy answer. We supply what is wanted. If there are no orders for other colours why would we send them to US? There has to be a demand, adequate to satisfy importer, to spend the moneys to get stocks.

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    Joe, is there a certain amount we would have to order. Maybe pay Donnie for it before it can be ordered? That way he wouldn't get stiffed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slide View Post
    Joe, is there a certain amount we would have to order. Maybe pay Donnie for it before it can be ordered? That way he wouldn't get stiffed.
    Reasonable question. It simply becomes economics. Each carton contains about 25lbs of powder. If buyers take small packs of a few ounces, that same carton will last may be a couple of years or even longer. It then becomes a decision as if it is practical to even buy one carton, and store it for such long periods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGrunt View Post
    How come we only get 12 colors here in the US?
    I have an order in the works as I type this. If there is a color you or anyone else would like to try, let me or Joe know and we'll see if I can squeeze it in.
    Some colors are just not possible in the Hi-Tek system. I know Joe puts a lot of effort in trying to satisfy the many requests he gets.

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    What colors are we talking about? What ones don't we have?
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    Yeah a complete image of all available colors would be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slide View Post
    What colors are we talking about? What ones don't we have?
    We would have to get some input from Joe on that one.

    Some colors are variations of an existing color for example in Gold there is Old Gold, Gold 1035, Sunny Gold, etc.

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    OK Hope we are not putting Joe to any trouble. Donnie, the biggest you sell is a 15 ounce container? I am sure the commercial guys buy it in bigger batches.
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    There are a few that were never named.
    They worked, but looked like Schite.
    Hooroo.
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    You don't realize it, you just named them!
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    Be careful....you know what happened with the DD Red.

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    I hope you aren't thinking I'm trying to put pressure on you when I bring up the Auburn Orange and Blue. If you find a way to make it I'll buy it but no pressure intended. I mean, after all, for man some things are just not possible.
    While I work at it, it is by God's grace that it happens. So it is best I ask him what, how and when before I start..

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    Quote Originally Posted by slide View Post
    OK Hope we are not putting Joe to any trouble. Donnie, the biggest you sell is a 15 ounce container? I am sure the commercial guys buy it in bigger batches.

    From 15 oz it jumps to a 1 kg bag $75/kg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger442 View Post
    Be careful....you know what happened with the DD Red.

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    I hope you aren't thinking I'm trying to put pressure on you when I bring up the Auburn Orange and Blue. If you find a way to make it I'll buy it but no pressure intended. I mean, after all, for man some things are just not possible.
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    These are some colours not made commercially as yet.
    Blush Copper, (Red blush metallic type), Blush Chocolate, a brown with red tinge, Desert Tan, or desert Sand yellow tan colour, Red Tinatural, strange colour, Tan olive, which looks like olive green with a tan appearance, Tinatural, yellowish film, Blue 818V2, a very dark blue with tinge of green, 818/305 (no Name) very dark Blue/Green metallic, Black Pearl Mark 1version, a Pearlescent black.
    I do not know how to post the pictures of coated projectiles with these colours.
    We have had many more, but Ausglock after testing, not liking any simply told me that the colours were no good and no pictures were taken. Many, many, we were trying to make is a Blue, which ended up every colour except Blue.

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    Some were so bad, I put 2 coats of black over them.
    Mind you... they all shot fine.
    Just looked bloody horrible.
    Hooroo.
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    Gold 1035 baked at 450F for 60 minutes and water dropped after final coat.

    A nice milk chocolate brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BABore View Post
    Gold 1035 baked at 450F for 60 minutes and water dropped after final coat.

    A nice milk chocolate brown.

    Looks like you invented a new colour. Now, just to reproduce it....

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    Bake for an hour??
    Well...


    That with fukc your production rate....
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    Quote Originally Posted by HI-TEK View Post
    Avenger
    These are some colours not made commercially as yet.
    Blush Copper, (Red blush metallic type), Blush Chocolate, a brown with red tinge, Desert Tan, or desert Sand yellow tan colour, Red Tinatural, strange colour, Tan olive, which looks like olive green with a tan appearance, Tinatural, yellowish film, Blue 818V2, a very dark blue with tinge of green, 818/305 (no Name) very dark Blue/Green metallic, Black Pearl Mark 1version, a Pearlescent black.
    I do not know how to post the pictures of coated projectiles with these colours.
    We have had many more, but Ausglock after testing, not liking any simply told me that the colours were no good and no pictures were taken. Many, many, we were trying to make is a Blue, which ended up every colour except Blue.
    Have the pictures on your computer.

    Click the third little icon from the right on the toolbar at the top of the edit window. The insert image window will pop up. Click on the From Computer tab. Click on Choose File. That will open up a file window. Go to the first image and click on it, select open. Now UPLOAD the file.

    That uploads one image to the forum.

    Or you can PM me for my email, send them to me and I'll do the heavy lifting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    Bake for an hour??
    Well...

    That with fukc your production rate....
    I wasn't after normal production. I used a balanced tin - antimony alloy with 0.2% copper for increased toughness. Two coats of 1035 were applied and baked normally. A third coat was applied and baked at the time/temp mentioned above so I could water drop them. A 400 F temp is not high enough to heat treat a lead alloy. It does do a great job annealing though. The finished boolits, a chocolate brown, tested out at 24 bhn after 2 weeks. They were sized, checked, and lubed with regular lube. They were shot at full velocity in the 30'06, 308, 7mm-08, and 375 H&H. The goal of using your HTC was to eliminate the grey bbl wash at HV. It did just that.

    In regards to the heat treat temperature, I ran a series of tests 10-15 years ago using WW alloy. I ran batches of boolits through my oven in 25 F increments. Started at 375 F and topped out at the slump point. Boolits were water dropped directly from the oven. Hardness was tested at 1 week an 3 weeks. 425 F was where hardness began to ramp up. 450 F was where it peaked. I also ran some annealing tests on fully heat treated boolits. 400 F was where they were fully annealed.

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