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    Silver is a no go at this time... the resin causes yellowing, so trials of silver go gold.
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    Elkins45, you picked some good colors. They are all easy to work with!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by slide View Post
    Elkins45, you picked some good colors. They are all easy to work with!!
    My first try with the zombie green came out a sludge brown color. This was using the same times and temps that have worked with bronze and candy apple red. Not impressed with the color so I hope at least it will shoot OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slide View Post
    I have got to upgrade my membership so I can post photos.
    Iím pretty sure you can post photos at any membership level. I know I can and I havenít contributed to the site in the last couple of years.
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    I don’t think you can insert images into a PM so I’m just going to do it here.

    The first step is to click on the photos icon. It looks like a picture frame.

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    Once you do that a dialogue box pops up. I’m assuming you are using a photo you have on your computer so select the “From Computer” tab. Click the “Choose Photo” button and find the image.

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    Thanks, really appreciate it. I don't know where I got the idea you had to have a certain membership to post photos. When I was growing up our computers were big chief tablets and #2 pencils. I"ll bet there not many who remember those.
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    This now works... I used to have to host images on imgur....woohoo..
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    Very Nice Ausglock!!!
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    Nice shirt Ausglock. Regards Stephen

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    Quote Originally Posted by slide View Post
    Hey Joe, Somebody posted on the forum about CCI coming out with polymer coated 22 rounds. Blue and red on the colors I think. Any idea what they are using to coat and how they do it?
    Slide, I am not aware of what CCI may be using. If they are US based may be Donnie can shed some light on these folk. I looked at loaded ammo with Red colour on alloy. I have not seen any Blue ones.

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    Elkins, as long as they pass the smash test etc they should shoot fine. Sounds like they've just been overcooked a wee bit.

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    I'd like to report something interesting:

    I cast a bunch of 615 grain 50 cal bullets and was kinda hurrying up to get them done. So I didn't weigh them but did the math in my head... wrong.

    I used 8 ml of coating for 5 lbs of bullets,three times. I noticed they were swimming... but I went on,coatings were good looking... I found out the real weight the day after. My coating was a mix again, 2 ml Tru Blu, 6ml TMG Gold Original. I like these greens I'm getting.

    The thing is,smash and wipe and scratch and bite and whatever test I do, this coating has bonded perfectly and is just thicker than usual. Approx. 002". Looks good,elastic,glossy,as you can see. Tough coating.



    I sized and loaded some today, 1100 fps, almost 50 k psi, working fine and clean.



    My first coat was absolutely too thick. No problems whatsoever with this mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HI-TEK View Post
    Slide, I am not aware of what CCI may be using. If they are US based may be Donnie can shed some light on these folk. I looked at loaded ammo with Red colour on alloy. I have not seen any Blue ones.
    I’ve seen them in the store. They appear to be powder coated.
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    I won't be buying any of them. I have heard some bad reports on the federal syntech. Why buy when you can do it yourself and get better results! Just curious.
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    I highly doubt that CCI is using Hi-Tek.

    The blue just came out and is totally different, and there is no white.

    Most likely some sort of industrial polymer coating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elkins45 View Post
    Iíve seen them in the store. They appear to be powder coated.
    Hi Elkins45
    I looked at CCI home web page. They are in US. The advertising was done as a video by a retailer.
    I noticed that the Red ( which looked very much like the Red Hi-Tek254, but I do not think they are) has speed restriction on package of 1235ft/sec. The Blue, (not Hi-Tek) had a lower speed recommendation of 1070ft/sec on package.
    I wonder why speed restrictions apply to these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt Fingers View Post
    I highly doubt that CCI is using Hi-Tek.

    The blue just came out and is totally different, and there is no white.

    Most likely some sort of industrial polymer coating.
    Burnt Fingers,
    I am amazed, how new "polymer coated casts" suddenly appear, no test reports about their performance, or if they actually do what is required, no accuracy figures and no historical performance results and no safety data.. just a pretty coated alloy.
    The Hi-Tek TRUBLU, was advertised about 4-5 months ago, it seems, that CCI did not take long to launch their "Blue" Polymer coating.
    It simply amuses me how Hi-Tek has caused such accelerated launches of "alternate" products by several companies since the introduction of Hi-Tek to USA about 7-8 years ago.
    Hi-Tek coatings may have made some realise, that this is the way ammo market has to go,
    despite Hi-Tek being on the market some 25 plus years outside of the US.
    With speeds as listed with CCI, I really don't know, but it seems to suggest, that they may have some concerns, but why should any lube or coating have speed restrictions?.
    With Hi-Tek, speeds are not restricted and have worked at over 3000ft/sec.
    As others said, with Hi-Tek, you simply coat your own, and it works. Simple....

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    Joe, scroll down in this forum until you come to a thread titled pulled bullets show hi tek removed. Never seen anything like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slide View Post
    Joe, scroll down in this forum until you come to a thread titled pulled bullets show hi tek removed. Never seen anything like it.
    Thanks Slide,
    I had previously not subscribed to that thread. Now I do.
    I did reply. From what I can see, the coating was shaved by case. I saw a deep grove/ring just below remaining coating. That is suggesting to me that inside edge of case had a sharp edge/ring. When coated cast was pulled, that sharp edge shaved off coating with Lead.
    There seems also a reduction of diameter of the cast where coating/Lead was removed.
    What I don't understand is, where did the shaved material disappeared to, as it was stated that no residues were inside case?

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    People rarely tell you the full story.........
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