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    They were called "go faster stripes" on this car but I'm pretty sure they didn't
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    Now on this car they may have?

    Note they are close to the correct color for the new lighter blue Hi Tek. So if that color makes it go fast, maybe we call it "go fast blue".
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    A commercial maker here in OZ is making Jellybean bullets.
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    So many shinies! look awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    A commercial maker here in OZ is making Jellybean bullets.
    I would love to see the maroon and gold, state or origin colours

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    State of Origin is Blue and Maroon... Go the Blues..
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    I like those jellybean bullets, you just gota love this coating. Regards Stephen

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    Jellybean as a single powder?

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    Are any of the powdered colors easier to work with than the others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petander View Post
    Jellybean as a single powder?
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha........Um.... .............NO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_60 View Post
    Are any of the powdered colors easier to work with than the others?
    K15 black, Red 254, Gold 1035, Dark Green, Red Copper, 502 Bronze and Kryptonite Green are all easy to use.
    Some ot the other colours tend to be more heat sensitive when your baking process isn't spot on.
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    That's why i like K15, i can't F it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    K15 black, Red 254, Gold 1035, Dark Green, Red Copper, 502 Bronze and Kryptonite Green are all easy to use.
    Some ot the other colours tend to be more heat sensitive when your baking process ins't spot on.
    Thanks

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    WHY?? have the jellybeans got lube groves???? No one ever tell them that they are redundant?? Less sealing surface, less to engauge in the rifling, harder to cast... Like selling a new age car with wooden wheels..

    Or is that for people you like to use grease lube on hitek coating??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin460 View Post
    WHY?? have the jellybeans got lube groves???? No one ever tell them that they are redundant?? Less sealing surface, less to engauge in the rifling, harder to cast... Like selling a new age car with wooden wheels..

    Or is that for people you like to use grease lube on hitek coating??
    My guess is,many customers still want the proven H&G 68.

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    Also... some of the most popular bullets have the lube groove..
    ie: the 9mm 125gn Conical. still the most popular bullet for Open Div shooters in IPSC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    Also... some of the most popular bullets have the lube groove..
    ie: the 9mm 125gn Conical. still the most popular bullet for Open Div shooters in IPSC.
    So you are telling me that the lube groove is beneficial to the projectile? So the most popular bullet for Open Div shooters in IPSC is actually lubed and not coated?.
    Also by way of deduction your blue and maroon pictured above are not popular in the Open Div in IPSC because they have no lube groove.
    Interesting. Here i was mistakenly thinking that a lube groove was the ancient way of lubricating a projectile.

    Wonder why jacketed rounds have no lube grooves, they will never be popular like that hey!.
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    Grem... Mate... push back from the weed.
    All are coated.. the groove is a throwback to the old days.
    A certain caster makes a grooveless 125Con. but it is not popular.
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    And the lack of popularity is because?

    Now we are getting to the question I did not ask, but inferred. Is removing the lube grove a good or a bad thing?
    My personal opinion is its a good thing. However that is based on speculative thinking.
    For example no LG allows for more sealing surface and more engagement with the riffling. Also being a gain or two heavier should in theory have a positive effect on "bullet drop" over pistol distances, however minor.

    Smoothbore molds are also easier to handcast from, this I know is factual.
    Also , should grooveless molds not be cheaper?, the cherries cost less to manufacture, the design is simpler, so making the molds would be slightly less complicated?

    I know this is not about coating itself, but it has a direct connection to coating. Are we hanging on the the throwback grove for nostalgia sake, or is there a performance reason to retain something, that now is no longer nessesary?

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    My God you two crack me up. If I may put my two Bobs worth in, I have removed the lube grooves from a couple of moulds myself and like Gremlin460 my main reason was to get more bearing surface for hotter rifle loads, there were another up sides as well. I ended up with a design known for accuracy which ended up some 30% heavier and shorter for that given weight, and in my case a win win win. I also have moulds that still have the lube grooves and I am quiet happy to put up with them as they perform well and as the old adage goes ( why fix what aint broke). I have a wonderful CBE .460 mould that drops a 460gr bullet and it is by fare the most accurate cast I have used in my 458wm and my mate swears by it in his 45/70, I would love to remove the lube grooves and see how it performs with more bearing surface at higher velocity. I also have to wonder does the removal of lube grooves raise pressure compared to a grooved bullet of similar weight and design. In your own way Grem you have raised a few questions in my mind. Regards Stephen. PS if you need some weed my yard is full of it, nothing like the Bindi buzz.

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    Bindi's I have by the ton, (reminds me need to go to bunning for new Victa today).

    I have 4 CBE molds, all but one have no lube grooves, I also have a Lee which I ran a reamer through, it has marks or a mini rings where the grooves used to be. All shoot fine. but remember I am a social sports shooter not a IPICAC Rambo style shooter,or what ever they are called.. The arrogant SOB's at the other end of the range.
    Back on topic..
    I wanted a CBE mold from David, 148g SWC in 358 to size for 38 and 357mag He got the one, but balked when I asked for a groove free one. Lost my custom right there, I pay for a mold *I* want, not one someone wants to sell me.

    This got me wondering if Grooves were really that big a deal. Ergo I poked Trevor, and, as predicted he fired up as all them funny NSW guys do..
    I dunno, I just like the smooth profile of a lube grooveless projectile. Has anyone had a pill that stopped performing after having the groove removed? I can only ask to find out.


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