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    Quote Originally Posted by glockfan View Post
    i tried 3 layers yesterday for the first time on my new accurate mold 35-130M...and i like how it turned out. i like how it seals the boolit,and the added thiickness is welcome since my mold drops at 357 flush,so i can pass them trough my resizer at 357 to make the boolits perfectly round. the added 3rd layer run my boolits at .358 which is the perfect situation for me.

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    Nice work, GF.
    Hooroo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausglock View Post
    Nice work, GF.
    honestly Trevor, i think this specific one (35-130M) is goin to mass production. bullseye shooting worthy...super accurate,sub moa benched to 25 meters with a steady aim. will ask tom to cut me another one for the mastercaster. the smaller meplat allows a longer coal than my previous (35-145M) desigN.



    i think by now i'm gonna stick with the 3 layers approach. it doesn't add much time,and i really like how it enclose the boolit .

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockfan View Post
    i tried 3 layers yesterday for the first time on my new accurate mold 35-130M...and i like how it turned out. i like how it seals the boolit,and the added thiickness is welcome since my mold drops at 357 flush,so i can pass them trough my resizer at 357 to make the boolits perfectly round. the added 3rd layer run my boolits at .358 which is the perfect situation for me.

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    They are absolutely beautiful and accurate, what else does one need?
    I have had similar reports with the Dark Green Metallic as well.
    The dark Green metallic, is somewhat like the Zombie Green, but a darker Green and pearlescent.
    They glitter in sunlight and also very accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HI-TEK View Post
    glockfan

    They are absolutely beautiful and accurate, what else does one need?
    I have had similar reports with the Dark Green Metallic as well.
    The dark Green metallic, is somewhat like the Zombie Green, but a darker Green and pearlescent.
    They glitter in sunlight and also very accurate.


    Joe. i really got my act together with old gold. i now use a little more product : i shoot 10ml for each 8 pounds worth of boolits. my mix is a little more diluted.i use 56ml of acetone for 10 grams of the product. i also make a point of not letting the acetone to flash completely,i dump the boolits still wet on the baking tray.

    i also really think that each oven type will work best with a certain amount of boolits.my black n decker convection gets me a perfect bake with 16pound of boolits to cook . having a shield over the oven's elements is also very importatnt to me ; i want a radiant heat,not direct. as well, the BBQ brickets is of tremendous help. the recovery time is way faster,and the oven's temp don't drop down as low ,like without the briquets.

    i've been able to do 3 layers inside the 1 hour mark. i'm now walking into rifle load developpement ; i've ordered a 140grs boolit for my 6.5 creedmore tikka T3X TAC 1 rifle,and i plan to work a full power load coated with 3 layers of hi tek. of course i'm gonna use a harder alloy 92-6-2 .

    i have all my pistol boolits spec'ed for mass production. now, i'm gonna work some .308 and 6.5 CM . i want my commercial production the be PERFECT.PERFECT,nothing less. i want to be able to tell my customers that,they can load at the higher end of the loading chart without even thinking. the boolits i will sell will be perfect,because we know how demanding customers acan be lol.

    also, i hope to be able to make the old gold color the brand mark color for all my production

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    [QUOTE=glockfan;4456429]Joe. i really got my act together with old gold. i now use a little more product : i shoot 10ml for each 8 pounds worth of boolits. my mix is a little more diluted.i use 56ml of acetone for 10 grams of the product. i also make a point of not letting the acetone to flash completely,i dump the boolits still wet on the baking tray.

    glockfan,
    Many have realised, that using product made up with more Acetone actually produces best results.
    If then you consider what is used with 3 coats, it works our about the same as using two of more concentrated mix coats..

    If you look at the lube grooved projectiles, they are really for all the waxy greasy type applications.
    Here, most commercial casters are producing non-grooved casts, coat the alloy, dry & bake, and it works in all calibres.
    The Hi-Tek coating really eliminates complicated alloy single or multi-grooved configurations, that required other lubricants to stop Lead becoming in contact with the bore.
    These multi-grooved casts, do not have a great deal of bearing surface, and using coatings on these, can only protect the sections that would directly come in contact with the bore.
    Much of the coating simply ends up inside the lube grooves where it serves no purpose and is a waste.

    A project, that has been in the back of my mind for some time, is to look at comparing accuracy of hard cast with soft alloys, when there are no lube grooves, and when they are sized the same.
    Then compare results using hard and soft alloy with lube grooved casts, coated same way, and see what effects are realised comparing the lube groove versus non lube groove with accuracy and speed.

    I am guessing that casts both hard and soft without lube grooves, sized correctly should work. But up to what speed it can be shot, is another question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockfan View Post
    honestly Trevor, i think this specific one (35-130M) is goin to mass production. bullseye shooting worthy...super accurate,sub moa benched to 25 meters with a steady aim. will ask tom to cut me another one for the mastercaster. the smaller meplat allows a longer coal than my previous (35-145M) desigN.



    i think by now i'm gonna stick with the 3 layers approach. it doesn't add much time,and i really like how it enclose the boolit .
    My favourite 9mm bullet is the 35-150Z. sized .3565 for 38 Super. Amazingly accurate in my Kimber STII 1911
    Hooroo.
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    Ausglock; Sounds like a good test mule for Joe's project.

    Got a new gun last week
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    A pistol caliber AR in 45. Got it for the Grandkids to shoot . Already have about 10 pounds of 45s cast but not coated. And about 50 rounds of loaded Hi Tek for it.
    While I work at it, it is by God's grace that it happens. So it is best I ask him what, how and when before I start..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger442 View Post
    Ausglock; Sounds like a good test mule for Joe's project.

    Got a new gun last week
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    A pistol caliber AR in 45. Got it for the Grandkids to shoot . Already have about 10 pounds of 45s cast but not coated. And about 50 rounds of loaded Hi Tek for it.
    I wasn't aware of a Glock magazine in .45 that held that many rounds.

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    It came with a 13 round Glock mag. The one in the photo is a KCI Magazine for Glock 21,30,41 .45 ACP 26Rds. Not the quality of a Magpul or factory mag, but will work acceptable for range play. I bought it on GrabaGun.com
    While I work at it, it is by God's grace that it happens. So it is best I ask him what, how and when before I start..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger442 View Post
    It came with a 13 round Glock mag. The one in the photo is a KCI Magazine for Glock 21,30,41 .45 ACP 26Rds. Not the quality of a Magpul or factory mag, but will work acceptable for range play. I bought it on GrabaGun.com
    Cool. Nice setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avenger442 View Post
    Ausglock; Sounds like a good test mule for Joe's project.

    Got a new gun last week
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    A pistol caliber AR in 45. Got it for the Grandkids to shoot . Already have about 10 pounds of 45s cast but not coated. And about 50 rounds of loaded Hi Tek for it.
    Down here one can only dream of such a thing...........

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    There are some here that would like it that way. But, so far, our Constitution has held them at bay.
    While I work at it, it is by God's grace that it happens. So it is best I ask him what, how and when before I start..

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    Unfortunately not in NY, we use to be free then Cuomo stepped in. Those of us who live upstate in the country are out voted and ruled by that small island called NYC. I keep praying for better days, I to old to just uproot, leave my family and move away.
    Be careful what you wish for!

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    We are taking a trip through the Virginia's, Pennsylvania and will pass through Maryland. We had talked about going through New York but nixed the idea. They do not honor my CCP and confiscate weapons if we are stopped. You don't get them back. I don't travel without a gun on me. Never know if you might need it in these days. So we will have to be careful in Maryland. They don't honor it either. But are not as ignorant as the Government in New York in their reaction.

    There was an incident that happen recently which actually got reported on the news. An officer had been shot four times by a person he had stopped in a car and other officers were being fired upon when a citizen with a concealed weapon shot the suspect and ended the conflict. CCP holders are involved probably once a month in ending active shooter conflicts here in the US. But you rarely see it reported on the news. Of course it was FOX news.
    While I work at it, it is by God's grace that it happens. So it is best I ask him what, how and when before I start..

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    Having a problem here in NY would all depend on the officer, while not having a valid NYS permit would up the ante and likely result in an arrest, some officers are pro 2nd Amendment and more lenient and some are hard core anti-gun for citizens, I've run into both kinds.

    Part of the "Safe Act" now includes, loose your pistol permit and you loose your right to own long guns as well, they'll come and take both, it's already happen to some here. They also allow ANYONE in health care to anonymously report you as potential danger to yourself or others, they come for your guns then a judge determines if you are fit to own a firearm, you get one shot to plead your case to the judge and you have no right to face or know who your accuser was.

    Shortly after the Safe Act was passed the NY State Police were caught data mining health records of permit holders, they were looking for anyone who had ever been prescribed anti-depressants or had seen a head shrinker and looking for matching names. They found one poor sap and seized his guns, unfortunately they had the right name, David Lewis but the wrong David Lewis, it made the news, the firearms were eventually returned to the gentleman. It was exposed they had been digging through citizens medical records which is a violation of the HIPAA Act, it was leaked and confirmed to be true from an anonymous source inside the dept but of course nothing ever came of it. https://nyfirearms.com/forums/firear...un-permit.html

    BTW, In NY you can only have ten round mags and you can only load seven rounds in the mag (plus one in the pipe) unless your at a range target shooting or shooting a sanctioned match, then you can load ten. So ten rounds for plinking or matches but only seven for self defense, even while in your home. Get caught with a mag that holds more then ten and it's five years for each mag, plus loosing your permit and all your guns.

    I won't even go into "assault rifles", not enough time or room to try and begin to explain it all here...... Good luck trying to figure it out, even the State Police said they can't make sense of a lot of it.

    Welcome to NY, Cuomo land....
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    Quote Originally Posted by benellinut View Post
    Having a problem here in NY would all depend on the officer, while not having a valid NYS permit would up the ante and likely result in an arrest, some officers are pro 2nd Amendment and more lenient and some are hard core anti-gun for citizens, I've run into both kinds.

    Part of the "Safe Act" now includes, loose your pistol permit and you loose your right to own long guns as well, they'll come and take both, it's already happen to some here. They also allow ANYONE in health care to anonymously report you as potential danger to yourself or others, they come for your guns then a judge determines if you are fit to own a firearm, you get one shot to plead your case to the judge and you have no right to face or know who your accuser was.

    Shortly after the Safe Act was passed the NY State Police were caught data mining health records of permit holders, they were looking for anyone who had ever been prescribed anti-depressants or had seen a head shrinker and looking for matching names. They found one poor sap and seized his guns, unfortunately they had the right name, David Lewis but the wrong David Lewis, it made the news, the firearms were eventually returned to the gentleman. It was exposed they had been digging through citizens medical records which is a violation of the HIPAA Act, it was leaked and confirmed to be true from an anonymous source inside the dept but of course nothing ever came of it. https://nyfirearms.com/forums/firear...un-permit.html

    BTW, In NY you can only have ten round mags and you can only load seven rounds in the mag (plus one in the pipe) unless your at a range target shooting or shooting a sanctioned match, then you can load ten. So ten rounds for plinking or matches but only seven for self defense, even while in your home. Get caught with a mag that holds more then ten and it's five years for each mag, plus loosing your permit and all your guns.

    I won't even go into "assault rifles", not enough time or room to try and begin to explain it all here...... Good luck trying to figure it out, even the State Police said they can't make sense of a lot of it.

    Welcome to NY, Cuomo land....
    amazing how it can be different from states to states. like,another completely out of our solar system planet.

    sure enough new york isn't gun friendly anymore,but so are most of the major cities liberal driven. i wonder how it is possible, with the 2A being a constitutional amendement , for a city to be able to over rule 2A to such point where it looks like law abiding gun owners are treated like criminals. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockfan View Post
    amazing how it can be different from states to states. like,another completely out of our solar system planet.

    sure enough new york isn't gun friendly anymore,but so are most of the major cities liberal driven. i wonder how it is possible, with the 2A being a constitutional amendement , for a city to be able to over rule 2A to such point where it looks like law abiding gun owners are treated like criminals. .
    Glockfan
    The difficulty comes from gradual sneaking in of small changes, that eventually end up preventing any one owning any guns.
    It has happened here. Criminal activity has caused Knee Jerk reactions by politicians, and a signing of a paper, suddenly, proper law abiding citizens became criminals for owning a gun.
    There seems a world wide combined activity to ban all guns.
    What is not able to be done is to stop guns being owned by criminals . Proper licensed gun owners are always targeted as the pollies know where these guns are located.
    So all are patting each other on the backs as having done a public service, but the problem areas are not fixed at all.

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    Our Constitution actually guarantees the right of a citizen to keep and bear arms. That means you can not only own but carry with you a weapon. That particular part of the Constitution stems from the Colonist experiences with British rule and the realization that at some time the people, which are clearly stated in the document as the ruling class in this country, might need to take action to protect their liberty.

    That freedom has been eroded over the years by people that do not agree with our founding laws and documents and wish to take our freedom from us. Making us wards of the State or Socialist. When they have been able to be voted into office, as in New York state and New York itself California etc., they have passed ordinances that have made it very difficult or, in some cases, impossible to exercise freedoms. They have sometimes been sued and have had to remove or modify those ordinances. But quite frankly some citizens of the United States have this done to them and are too ignorant of their founding documents because of our public education system or just too lazy to do anything about it. That course I had to go through in American History years ago that included study of the Constitution is absent or is modified to exclude it's history and true meaning in most schools today. We need to take another route other than public education which has helped cause the severe erosion of our rights. And that is coming from a former public education employee. There was a time when even New York State and California were a place of freedom. Don't vote for any Democrat!

    You usually see more crime in the areas where the Socialists are strong and those rights are strongly restricted. It is much easier for me to rob, rape and pillage if I have a gun and there is almost no chance of the person being attacked will have one. Criminals will always have a weapon. But that is not the only reason our Constitution guarantees the right to own and carry a gun. If your interested there is a free course offered online by Hillsdale College.

    Sorry to high jack the thread. They have a thread to discuss this stuff on castboolits.
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    Look at crime stats for Maine and Vermont. Lowest in nation. Why? Hardly any sanctions on the 2nd amendment. (Moving this discussion to another Forum maybe)
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