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    Release Compound On Lee Molds...Yes or No?

    With any luck the Brown truck will arrive sometime this week with two Lee molds (.452 & .358) for my casting adventure. I've read that aluminum molds don't require a release agent, true or false?

    I have a can of Frankford Arsenal release spray that I used on my ingot molds and I'm just curious as to whether I need to use it with Lee molds or if I risk getting wings on my bullets if I do.

    More ignorant questions to follow soon I'm sure.

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    I sprayed mine with releasing compound as well as used the match smoke way. I've had no problems.

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    I do not smoke or put a release agent on any molds. I did back when I was beginning because that was how I was told. Now, I just clean the molds with strong detergent and water with an old tooth brush. pre-heat them, lube the pins and pivots very sparingly and cast away. Some molds seem to need to be used a time or three before they drop pretty boolits with ease; others are right from the get-go. When a mold does give me troubles with release or wrinkles that washing and checking for clear vents does not help, then I use a hardwood splint to lightly smoke the cavities. Not sure it really helps, using the mold more helps.

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    Nothing goes in my molds' cavities except lead. New molds need to be really clean. Hot water, Dawn dish soap, (that's what wife uses) and soft brush will remove most of the machining oils, etc. Occasionally I'll use a bit of brake clean, spray, to make sure all oil is gone. Inspect the mold for any burrs, and make sure mold is well heated. Use a lube sparingly on the pins (Bull Plate is best) and make sure none gets in the cavities. Then start pouring. Some molds hang up a little bit (just a light tap on the hinge bolt or a quick shake) and often the hang ups will go away with practice and mold "break in". If you have to hammer on the handles to get a bullet out check the Molds section and read the stickies on lapping, and "Leementing"...
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    IMO, NEVER use a release agent, just not needed. A mold, alum, brass or iron, may take a few 100 bullets to season & drop well, but release agents just add another variable you don't need.
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    I use a release agent and wouldn't cast without it. I wear a leather glove to open the spruce and gently touch the bullet base and they fall out. You'd be amazed at what you can use for a release agent too.

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    sigh.
    if you use it just put it on the top.
    the cavity's need nothing except a little oxidization.
    if they 'need something' it surely isn't something to make them smaller, unless it's something to make them smaller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prs View Post
    ..... I use a hardwood splint to lightly smoke the cavities. Not sure it really helps, using the mold more helps.

    prs
    You would likely be better off using that hardwood splint to burnish the edges in the cavity and knock any burrs down.

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    Smoking and release agent just makes for smaller boolits. If the boolits don't jump right out of the mold when opened look for burrs inside the cavities. Release agent is just a way for sellers to release you from your money.
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    Release Compound On Lee Molds...Yes or No?

    NO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpmarty View Post
    Smoking and release agent just makes for smaller boolits. If the boolits don't jump right out of the mold when opened look for burrs inside the cavities. Release agent is just a way for sellers to release you from your money.
    You can't be speaking from experience however, the ones who use release agents are. Why would a clear liquid change the diameter of the bullet? Its not a coating with a measurable thickness so why would it change the bullet diameter? I use release agents for snow removal equipment. There aren't any burrs on snow blower or plows but the snow will stick like glue and pack into discharge chutes and it works wonders under the decks of commercial lawn equipment. Another good product i found as a release agent is RainX. Its alcohol based so it must dry and not be around your casting pot but it works extremely well. For $3.99 and available at Walmart, its the best deal around. I apply it with an artist brush and considering how much I've used this year, a bottle will last me 10 years and i can even put it on my windshield.
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    I wouldn't put anything in the cavities, bullplate on the sprue plate, but that serves a diff. purpose.

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    I'm definitely getting the answers I was looking for. I'll go for no release agent it sounds like. It's easier to add it if you need it than get the stuff off if you don't.

    Now if I could only find large pistol primers so could actually load what I cast.

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    Nothing should go into your clean, pre-heated cavities other than molten alloy.

    Mold release agent is the solution to a problem no one should have, assuming they are capable of learning proper casting techniques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dverna View Post
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    Never, never, never use a bullet mold release agent in your cavities.

    Despite claims to the contrary, it will reduce the diameter of the bullets and can reduce the diameter significantly if multiple coatings are used. I have personally measured reductions as much as 0.003.

    It also makes really ugly bullets. If you spray enough to really coat the cavity, the bullets look like sand castings.

    And it is very hard to remove.

    It does make a passable sprue plate lube. If you try it for this, be sure the cavities contain bullets during the spraying operation and spray the top of the mold VERY lightly.

    That said:

    It works really well in your ingot molds.


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    A properly prepared mold does not need a release agent.
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    maybe one place it actually helps and does no harm is on the core pin of a Lee druve key slug mold, otherwise NO on any mold
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