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Thread: Why cook Johnson Paste Wax?

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    Why cook Johnson Paste Wax?

    I'm looking to start tumble lubing for my pistol lead and I've come across the sticky for 45/45/10 LLA, JPW, MS. It shows the man cooking the JPW, but why? Could I melt it down and mix the ingredients? I've also seen a video some guy who just mixed all three together without melting anything...

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    I think it is to remove certain solvents that are beneficial for waxing furniture, but not so for lube. I know that when I made that lube a lot more cooked off than I thought would.

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    You are cooking off the solvents. It is a pretty important step, it greatly reduces the drying time of the final lube.
    Best suggestion I can give when making lubes from recipes here- follow the instructions and recipe verbatim. Failure to do so frequently causes you to have a mess that doesn't work quite right. Many others have done so before you, learn from their mistakes.

    Someone spent lots of time and energy to work out a specific lube recipe and cooking method. Please heed their advice and do it the way they did.

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    And absolutely follow the " NO OPEN FLAME" comment when cooking down the JPW. Several people have commented on the blow torch effect when not following the recommended procedure
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    Blow torch effect...wow! Thanks guys, but after reading this I found White Label has 45/45/10 lube at just as cheap as I could make it. Oh well, curiosity satisfied!

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    You don't have to melt/cook the JPW, but you won't get the same results. I was one who warmed everything and mixed together with my custom chemical mixer (a piece of wire coat hanger with the end bent into a question mark and chucked into my hand drill) and it worked so-so. It didn't dry as true 45-45-10, and it may not have lubed, retarded leading, as well as real 45-45-10. My next batch was done according to directions and the 45-45-10 works as well as eveyone says it does! Then I got lazy and just bought a bottle from White Label...
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    You do not have to cook it. You don't need to add the MS, just warm the JPW and stir in the alox. Drying time is minutes.
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    White Label are now selling a commercial version of Recluse's 45/45/10, it is very good indeed at a very friendly price.


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