HELP!........375 Winchester 94 big bore

[8mmshooter]

I need some of your expert opinion. I have a chance to purchase a never fired .375 big bore winchester 94. I would like your opinion on this caliber for deer as well as a fair price to offer for this rifle . Anyone have any idea's as to what this would be worth? He also has a colt python 3" barreled revolver blued finish that has had 3 cylinders full shot through it .Do you folks have any idea what this would be worth as well?Thanks: 8mmshooter

[Jumptrap]

Neither one of those guns worth a damn. Better tell me where the owner is so I can help him dispose of that junk.

Honestly, I wouldn't walk across the road for that Colt....but that 375 BB is a fine rifle. I've had 3 of them, kept trading until I found one new in the box.....wish I had kept #2 though..it was just as nice and prettier. Anyway, prices have soared...can't say I think they are worth it..even though I paid it. I gave $400 for mine maybe 3 years ago. I'd expect anyhing less than that a bargain now for a NIB gun.

[No_1]

I like this caliber. Got the itch when I saw what Bruceb (I believe) had spoken of the one he had in a Ruger #3. I have since purchased one of those #3's to add to my collection of #3's.

I personally believe they would smack the poop out of a deer if conditions were right. There was a gentleman I met on the last board who had a #3 in .375. He was very pleased with it's performance on deer. Sent me some pics of his success. We connected because he wanted a #3 in 30-40 and knew I had one. I turned him on to a gentleman who had a 30-40 barrel that was screwed off a #3 that that the owner wished to re-barreled to 30-30. Last I heard, he was getting the work done.

I have been watching the levers go anywhere from ~$400 used to $600+ if they were brand spanking new. I would love one of those to add to my lever collection but when the time was right the money was not and when the money was right the time was not.

Just think, when they first came out you could have walked down to the local store and got one for around $200......

[Bret4207]

Jeeze, Jump and I agree agian. If you can get the Python for under $400.00 grab it and ask $600.00 from someone enamoured with the Python mystique.
(I will now be attacked by someone who owns a Python that will shoot 1 hole groups at 100 yards!)

[cabezaverde]

Great caliber....it can be kind of finicky with cast though.

I have had 4 guns in my life in 375 Winchester, it is one of my favorites. Currently I have Ruger #3 I bought NIB at a show, and a Marlin 375. Around here, the rifle you are talking about would probably be 350 - 450.

I can personally attest to it being one of those calibers that hits harder than the paper ballisitics indicate.

If the one you are looking at is an XTR (not angle eject) they have long throats. They will also feed and eject a much longer OAL cartridge than the factory length. Seat a fat bullet out near the lands, and you are well on your way to shooting cast with it. I cannot speak to how the chambers are cut on the angle eject models.

[45 2.1]

Jeeze, Jump and I agree agian. If you can get the Python for under $400.00 grab it and ask $600.00 from someone enamoured with the Python mystique.
(I will now be attacked by someone who owns a Python that will shoot 1 hole groups at 100 yards!)

Gee Bret, there are a few Pythons out there that will just about do that. If you didn't learn on a Colt, then you probably won't understand.

[45 2.1]

The Win BB and the Marlin 375 really like paper patched bullets also.

[moodyholler]

I had a Ruger # 3 and at 150 yards with 220 gr Speer FN bullets and 4198, poked holes straight througha little buck. Same on both sides. moodyholler

[cabezaverde]

I had a Ruger # 3 and at 150 yards with 220 gr Speer FN bullets and 4198, poked holes straight througha little buck. Same on both sides. moodyholler

Moody,

What caliber was your #3 ? Speer does not make a .375 220, possibly a Hornady ?

[45nut]

I am the lucky one that got the gun Jumptrap talked about there and I am here to tell ya I am as happy now as I was when that gun first arrived. I am also here to tell you that the 375 will indeed leave a bruise on ya if ya forget to hold tight against your shoulder. A most ample package for "the hole" ya need to stackem' up if ya get the chance. I won't be selling mine.
The 220 should be labeled hornady I believe....nice nuf' slug for the FLGC type.

[Four Fingers of Death]

I have a XTR 375 Big Bore with a peep sight. I am very fond of it. they currently sell for around $650 in Australia. Of course as soon as you buy one, every gunshop owner will tell you they had one in stock for ages which they couldn't sell or gave away for a song. I have a frien who isa collector of sorts and has a brand new one, with the labels still attached. It has been on his rack since new and had just been dusted and oiled. It has never been cycled (I'll soon fix that). He is considering selling it. I don't need two of these things, but I am tempted.
Mick.

I have an RCBS mould for this, I think it is a 250 gn, it should work well.

[Bret4207]

45 2.1- I DID learn on a Colt. Army Special 32-20. I'll never get rid of it. Got some others too. But, the Pythons are over priced for what they are IMHO. Haven't seen one yet that will shoot with a Smith 19 or 27/28, same barrel length. That being said, I have no doubt there are some that will, I just haven't seen them. There's an idea out there that goes with the Pythons, Auto Mags, Uzi's, Glocks that the name means something extra. I never bought that idea.

[StarMetal]

Trooper Bret

You said that you just never seen a Python that shot good. Maybe what you saw was a person who just didn't shoot the Python good. The Python just didn't get it's reputation for nothing. A company just can't make a gun famous and supposely superior from the get go day one first issue. But I guess we could argue this Colt versus Smith just as I will say I bet there are more Remington rifles out there that outshoot Winchesters. I've seen mighty few Winchesters and Ruger impress me then I've see Remington, Savage, CZ, and Sako. Just my two pence.

Joe

[Nrut]

Does any one have any "exprience" with good shooting cast bullet loads (3" or better) at vel. 2000fps or more with a 250gr.bullet in the Winchester 94 BB???....I have been reading/searching for castbullet loads in the 250gr. range on the net for over a year now as I have one of these rifles....everyone talks about what a great cart. the .375 is but I have yet to see a accurate load....the loaded cast rounds that came with the rifle will do 6" to 9" inches at 50 yds. using a lyman bullet and RL-7 one of the better powders for this cart....I have not reloaded for this rifle myself ..yet .. as I have'nt had time... but hope to next spring....thanks for any info that you may have .....mic

[onceabull]

Nrut":Try some of the stuff Paco K. wrote up( at least part of which can be found in the "articles" section @ "Leverguns" .com) some caution recommended with his "Max"loads,but that applies to more than the 375 Winnie..onceabull

[Nrut]

Thanks onceabull...I should order Paco's CD book on lever actions...thanks again...mic

[Bret4207]

Joe- This is what I look like when I'm ignoring you.

[Urny]

8mmshooter, if you can get that Python in that condition for $400 I'll give ya $600 for it and we'll both be happy. Sorry about some of the other guys.

[moodyholler]

Right-o on the 220's. the 235's I had were Speer. SOrry about that!!! moodyholler

[Four Fingers of Death]

I have a new RCBS mould at me (buried somewhere). It is a 250Gn I think. I bought it years ago when I saw it cheap. I always knew I'd end up with a 375, only I thought that it would be a H&H. I also bought gaschecks, talk about planning ahead.

The Lee mould looks ok too what are these moulds (the RCBS and the Lee) like in the Big Bore.

No doubt I will be able to get back to casting soon.
Mick.