Arcane Style mold?

[Thompsoncustom]

Well I was wondering if there are any "Arcane" pointed style 9mm molds out there that won't break the bank. Ballisti cast has exactly what I want but not looking to spend 120 bucks on a mold. The most I've spent was 40 on my like new lyman so 120 for a mold is just crazy to me. Didn't know if there were any others out there that had a bullet like #907 in the photo. Thanks Dan

[eljefe]

I just got one of these.

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.co...u=000152660402

I bought the four cavity for $78 and change. It is a little heavier
than the one in the pic, and casts about 125 with my alloy (coww).

I lubed it with White label 50/50 and loaded it over some
Longshot (Hodgdon) and it shot very well out of my Hi-Power.
It was sized at .357, accurate and no leading.

[texassako]

I have seen Lyman 358093/35893 single cavity molds pop up occasionally on auction sites. I don't know if it would work in a 9mm though, but it is definitely pointy.

[Thompsoncustom]

Ya looking for a mold like the Lyman 358093/35893 that TEASSAKO listed. More pointy then truncated cone. Doesn't need to have a crimp or lube groove as I plain on order some of the bayou bullet coating when it gets it. So grooves or no grooves both should work.

[leadman]

I had that style boolit in an older Lyman 4 cavity mold but sold it about a year ago. I never shot in so can not comment on the performance. A new Lyman 2 cavity mold is running close to $70 at most of the dealers now.

[NoZombies]

Unless you get lucky finding a used mold someplace, the ballisticast will probably be about the cheapest option. The 35893 usually sells for ungodly money on ebay.

[happy7]

Noe sold some of these in various calibers.

[Thompsoncustom]

If anyone just has to have a 35793 spire point there one on ebay # 190842892826 but last time I checked it was already over a 100 bucks

[Ben]

Teach me something.

Why is this called an Arcane mold ?

Ben

[Thompsoncustom]

beats me I was just looking for pointy bullets and arcane/spire is what came up.

[Ben]

I thought I knew a bit about cast bullets.
Obviously , I don't know much.
I'd never heard of that word. ( arcane )
Never came across it in my readings.

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[fecmech]

According to the dictionary arcane means mysterious or secret I believe. The truncated cone designs by Lyman, Lee and RCBS in the 120-130 gr range are excellent, accurate bullets that feed as reliably as ball ammo. IMO you can't go wrong with any of them.

[Airman Basic]

If I remember rightly, when I first read about the arcane bullets, that was somebody's name for the bullet style. They were turned on a lathe from brass or copper. Remember reading this in the gun mags of the day, the 70's, but I ain't rooting through my collection unless somebody wants to pay me.

[captaint]

You funny, Ben. Now, everybody's funny. Mike

[Artful]

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/THV.htm

38 Special KTW (105 grains teflon-tipped bullet for penetrating car doors)
357 Magnum ARCANE (70 grains copper bullet)
357 Magnum SIB (77 grains copper bullet)
357 Magnum THV (45 grains brass bullet)
44 Magnum SIB
45 ACP SIB
45 ACP THV



An article by reloading guru Dean Grennell showing "Arcane" ammo designed by the French.
The principal was making handgun bullets out of brass into very pointy shapes and being able to drive them at double velocities of normal lead-based bullets.

The result was horrendous holes in agelatin or some kind of clay.
Where a lead .45 would cause a hole barely larger than the bullet diameter, the "Arcane" caused fist-sized craters.

A 'pinched tip' solid copper bullet w/a hollow base. High velocity. It not only gave penetration against hard & resiliant surfaces (steel, vests,etc) but on soft tissue targets it gave wounds almost double caliber size in some cases. A couple of different tip designs were around to try to combat feeding problems.

Some complaints about not enough penetration on soft targets. Hard to figure when they punch through steel! but that was a complaint of some Euro LE buyers.
I think the US import problems were partially to do with the armor piercing part of the design. No AP handgun ammo in the USA,, exceptions to LE - see "cop killer bullets'

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvcopk.html

Previously discussed
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ghlight=Arcane

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ghlight=Arcane

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ghlight=Pointy

NOE


http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ghlight=Pointy

[gunoil]

I'll never buy a cheap mold again.

[J..]

A little more info:




It would appear any mould maker capable of making a deep-hollowbase mould could make such a beast.

[Thompsoncustom]

interesting. I never really tested the armor piercing powers of my zinc alloy rounds but I'm sure they could go through as much as the above bullet (.12in). The side of my bullet trap is 1/4 or 3/8's of a inch and they made it about half way through that before stopping and they weren't any fancy design just the standard lee 102 RN and lee 125 RN TL.

[Thompsoncustom]

Anyone Know the degree of the spire point on the ballistic mold #907?

I have an junk lee mold that I'm just going to throw away do you think I can take a drill bit with the right tip and diameter and just make that bullet minus the lube groove?

[Artful]

I would choose a bit just undersize so you keep your lube groove then grind the point on the bit
- it will leave a shoulder but that good for clean holes in paper targets.
scale drawing from http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ghlight=Pointy

Looks to be using same angle on all sizes...


I don't think it's critical to have the point go all the way to the side



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