Doesn't Anybody Drive A Ford

[OnHoPr]

I see a number of lubes with Dextron as an ingredient. Doesn't anybody drive a Ford? What is so special about Dextron? Is that all what boolit casters drive is Chevy's? Will any ATF work in Dextron's place for a lube ingredient? I'm about to used Type F because it is what I have on hand.

[alamogunr]

I hope so because when I was gathering up the stuff for Ben's Red, I just got a quart of Auto Zone transmission fluid that was specified for older cars. I don't know if Dexron II or III are available now. Most reprints of Ed's Red and other homemade bore cleaners specify Dexron because that is what was available back when first published.

[waksupi]

I'd wait for Felix to chime in on this. I think the Dexron has the properties of whale oil.

[Marlin Junky]

The newer Mercon is OK but the Type F ATF for older Fords had friction modifiers which actually increased friction to limit (or prevent?) torque converter (is that right, motorheads?) slippage. Instead of looking for Mercon, I just use the latest derivation of Dexron (no "t" in there) which would be Dexron-6 (for the year 2006). I'm assuming the ATF is evolving into something better each time there is a revision.

MJ

[Dan Cash]

I tried some universal hydraulic fluid used in tractors and loader hydraulics. Seem to work just fine but a lot if it is not red.

[HangFireW8]

Just stopped driving my last Ford and hope to never drive one again.

[Recluse]

Will any ATF work in Dextron's place for a lube ingredient? I'm about to used Type F because it is what I have on hand.

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Type F will absorb into the lead, then when fired the gas-cutting separates the antimony from the lead and tin and since the antimony is the "hardness" factor in the boolit, you'll pit your barrel to Hell and back.

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Once the pitting happens, you'll have to firelap it except with a compound to remove the pitted antimony. The compound is called Zerchristium and it's used in the aircraft industry to strengthen the titanium "bathtubs" that are forged around the engine and crew compartments on the Pave Low HH-53 USAF SOG choppers. It's expensive as hell, has a hazmat fee that is almost the price of a new gun (you might be even better off simply replacing the barrel--be cheaper in some instances).

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But the real problem with the compound is that it is almost impossible to get completely out of your fingers and fingernails and gun-owners and boolit-casters being what we are, at some point you'll reach down to scratch your privates and then your Johnson will ALSO get pitted and THAT will mean a trip to the urologist--which under Obamacare will damned sure cost you more than a new gun, lapping compound AND the proper type of transmission fluid you should've used in the first place.

Think about that before you just go willy-nilly changing up the sacred order of ingredients.

[colt1960]

Gm baby all the way. Ha!

[runfiverun]

wow jd.

mercon is a man made replacement for sperm whale oil.
type-F atf is desirable in many instances, a higher friction lube is pretty dang useful.
poor o.p.

[btroj]

Now I know what happened to the old Johnson..

I just buy store brand ATF. I don't look beyond those 3 letters. Somehow it just works......

[DeanWinchester]

I used to drive Fords, the I bought a Toyota and found out you can actually have a vehicle that you don't have to work on all the time.
Americans used to build the best cars in the world. .......used to.


As far as the tranny fluid goes, I bought a couple of quarts specifically for my boolit lube. May as well buy what e recipe calls for.

[GREENCOUNTYPETE]

most of the atf i have seen in the past 20 years was dexron mercon and we used it in fords and chevys

but if you want it i have a can of Target brand type F transmission fluid in the foil and paper can you can have , that i cleaned out of grandpas garage after he died.

as for driving i have a ford and a chevy they break just about as often as each other but so much less than the dodge i had.

[alamogunr]

I guess I'm going to have to look and see what I bought. I sure didn't see any Dexron on the shelf. Do you have to go to a GM dealer to find it?

Like DeanWinchester I bought a Toyota Avalon in '96, drove it 200K. Traded for an '06 and am well on my way to another 200K. Only problems have been other drivers don't watch where they are backing and turning.

[winelover]

Another Chevy Guy here. Went into town yesterday and discovered that the Classic Chevy Club of North Arkansas was holding a car show. Took care of the errands and went back home and fired up the 1972 Chevelle SS and headed back. After the show, stopped at Cbricks place and found him busting his butt building a retaining wall. Left after a quick visit, before he put but this broken down body to work.

Winelover

[cbrick]

Another hijacked thread . . . Here is what Winelover found me in the middle of.

[btroj]

Wow, where did you find all those rocks that are the same shape and size?

I know little enough about vehicles and such that ATF is ATF to me

[44man]

I would have left fast too! Looks like some heavy work Rick.
Looks like you are getting help from aliens like the pyramids!

[Bigslug]

What is so special about Dextron? Is that all what boolit casters drive is Chevy's?

There is a social/economic factor at work. Once a shooter buys a GM vehicle, he spends so much money fixing it that he can no longer afford factory ammo or jacketed bullets, and thus is forced into casting. He can't afford store-bought boolit lube either. Necessity being the mother of invention, lubes got invented by using the materials on hand. Catch-basins placed under leaky transmissions and differentials provided the first ingredients for automotive product-based lubes.

I'm not sure if I was cheated in life or not - the fact that my family has driven little but reliable Toyotas since I was seven may be the reason I didn't get into casting until my late 30's.

[geargnasher]

Another hijacked thread . . . Here is what Winelover found me in the middle of.

Reminds me of Edward Leedskalnin's work.

Gear

[HangFireW8]

Americans used to build the best cars in the world. .......used to.

Still do. My two "Japanese" cars were made in the USA. My last 3 "American" cars were made in Canada. One guess as to which set had better power, handling, fuel economy and reliability.

Don't even get me started on all of Ford's bizzaro auto trans shift behavior. Maybe it's the ATF...

HF