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Thread: Roll Crimp for 410 homemade

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    Roll Crimp for 410 homemade

    Hi Guys,

    Just made a 410 roll crimp without a lathe.
    Looked at other methods you guys were making them and came up
    with this idea, easy simple and just a bench drill and hacksaw and metal file and 8mm tap.
    Materials used 24mm dia mild steel round solid bar 1 inch long, 8mm bolt with shank(high tensile)
    and 8mm nut and washer.

    Firstly take the 24mm round bar and drill a 6.8mm hole striaght throught
    it, in the centre of course, next drill a 12 1/2 mm hole throught 3/4 's of the lenght of the round bar, using the 6.8mm hole.
    Next tap the 6.8mm hole that remains in the 1/4 of the bar with a 8mm tap.
    Next cut the 8mm bolt so that you have 2 inch of it, 1 inch threaded and 1 inch shank. Place the shank piece in a bench drill and using a vice for a rest file 3 screw threads off the end of the threaded part, untill you get down to no threads on it(so the end looks like a dog screw).
    Place the threaded part of the cut bolt into the 8mm tapped part of the round bar, but be sure to put the nut on first and a washer too.
    Screw it in untill it sticks out into the 12 1/2mm by about 4mm, tigthen nut and its ready to use.

    I think this is the easiest way to make one and no lathe needed.

    You can alter the deepth the bolt goes into the steel bar to get your own perfect roll crimp finish, but remember to file off more thread if needed.
    A normal metal drill will give you the bell end finish when you drill with the 12 1/2mm drill.
    You can alter the lenght of the round bar so you can have a shorter roll crimp.

    Note on the pics i also drilled a 16mm hole too, so i could get the 410 carts in easy, just i am tall and i found it easier to use.
    Gun blacked the main part so you could see better.

    Hope this saves people money and remember you can use this method on any gauge, just take time to work out the measurements.

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    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 410 roll crimp 001.jpg   410 roll crimp 002.jpg  
    Last edited by melter68; 05-12-2013 at 09:40 AM. Reason: finish post, post pics

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    Looking forward to pics

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    now finished guys, good luck making yours

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    I'm no machinist, just a beer-can engineer. That is a brilliant idea and great execution. Self-sufficient is best. Most of us do not have a lathe so your method makes sense. How are your results?

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    That is really cool, got the old wheels turning, thanks for sharing. HC

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    Well my results are better than the one i paid £25 pounds for last week.
    So i set out to think of idea's months ago after reading peoples threads do this with a lathe
    and that. I like to save money and theres always a way to make things at home and i like your
    beer can engineer saying, you do the work i will drink the beer.
    We are all here to help each other and save money and enjoy

    My over shot cards stay in great and the top roll egde is smooth.

    I never used the one i bought it looked terible and where i put the
    8mm bolt, the bought one had a hole. My mate tryed it while i was
    tinkering with something and i did not like the results.
    Last edited by melter68; 05-12-2013 at 03:46 PM. Reason: spelling

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    So Melter,

    Is that warm beer you're talking about?

    Please advise.
    Uber7mm

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    No a couple of cool buds alround

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    Buds?

    I'll PM you.
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    Yes Budwizer beer

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    I just found this thread.Do you,can you,provide pics of the loaded shells with the crimp? My personal favorite is Fat Tire or Guinness. Never liked bud or miller for that matter.Oh yeah...PBR!
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    Make mine guiness too!

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    I know this is an old thread but just found it. Brilliant idea! One thing escapes me, what is the purpose of grinding 3 threads off the end of the 8mm bolt and having that protrude 4mm into the cavity? Is it intended to centre the hull? Is it even necessary? Many thanks

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