45 Colt Brass What am I looking at?

[jonp]

Here is a picture of 2 pieces of 45 Colt brass from some I got on this sight. What am I looking at on the right? Is this something like the non-lead primer pocket I've run into on some 9mm and 45ACP brass?
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[Lloyd Smale]

looks like part of the primer cup is still in there

[jonp]

I have a couple from the same GFL headstamp like this which is Fiocchi I think.

[Rick Hodges]

I found the same thing in a Hornady .380 auto case yesterday. I believe the depriming punch just knocked the back of the primer and anvil out and left the sides inside the pocket. It was the first time I have seen this. (Other cases from the same box of ammo were normal.)

[44man]

Brittle primer that broke.
Seen it with percussion caps made in Italy. They would shatter and stick pieces of the cap in my face. I will not use other then Fed or CCI since.
Use any US made primers.
It can also happen with glued in primers or swaged in.

[bamacisa]

They call that a ringer. They make a tool for removing ringers from the case. I got mine from Midway several years ago. I don't think Midway carries them anymore. My ringer removal tool cost less than $20. If you are reloading military cases, you will get some ringers.

[tomme boy]

Fiocchi brass. Take a small regular screwdriver and pry it out. Bad primer. Nothing wrong with the brass. It is just a little harder from the ones I have used.

[jonp]

Thanks, I wasn't sure what it was.

[GARCIA]

Had exactly the same thing happen to me with the same head stamped brass.
Could not figure out why the primer was not seating on my Dillon 550 till I pulled the brass and looked at it.

Tom