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Thread: The much-maligned .38 Long Colt... Not as weak as everyone thinks! (By Mike Hudson)

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    The much-maligned .38 Long Colt... Not as weak as everyone thinks! (By Mike Hudson)

    The Vintage .38 Long Colt

    By Mike Hudson


    The .38 Long Colt cartridge has been the object of derision in the gun press for longer than any of us even remember. Its main claim to shame is that it so lacked in stopping power that the fanatical Moro tribesman of the Philippines were capable of digesting a cylinderful and go on to lop the head off of the unfortunate U.S. Army officer who’d shot him.

    Reading some accounts of the Philippine War today, one could easily get the impression that the Moro fighter armed with a three-foot bolo machete was better equipped than American soldiers carrying Krag rifles and the Colt .38’s. The uproar led to the reinstatement of the .45 caliber as the American service cartridge, a round that, as the .45 ACP, remains as a substitute standard service cartridge even today.

    So just how bad was it? How might it compare to rounds now being used in self-defense weapons by millions of Americans?

    The .38 Long Colt cartridge was brought out in 1875 for use in the famous Single Action Army revolver and became an institution two years later when Colt designers paired it with the first double action produced by the company, the Colt Lightning model. The original black powder loading fired a 150-grain pure lead bullet at 770 feet per second, producing 201 pounds of muzzle energy. Sales of the Lightning were phenomenal and the future of the round looked bright.

    In 1889 Colt introduced the first in its series of swing-out cylinder, double action revolvers collectively known today as the New Army and Navy series. The swing-out cylinder eliminated the rod ejector system employed by both the Single Action Army and the Lighning, making reloading a much less laborious process.

    The New Army and Navys underwent a series of minor improvements in 1892, 1894 and 1896. To the untrained eye, these later models are almost indistinguishable from Colt’s Official Police revolver, which continued in production until 1969.


    Illustration courtesy of Mike Hudson.
    The Navy purchased 5,000 of the .38 revolvers in 1889 and the Army quickly followed suit, replacing all of their Single Action Army .45’s with the new weapon. The novice pistolero was far more easily trained in the use of the lighter cartridge and it was felt that the ability to rapidly reload more than offset the liability of using a less powerful round.

    It should be remembered that, during the final 20 years of the 19th Century, armies the world over were downsizing the calibers of their small arms. Revolvers in .32 or even .30 caliber were in widespread use by the French, Russian, Swiss and other continental militaries and most cops patrolling the streets America’s cities were likewise armed with .32 caliber handguns.

    The Colt .38’s got their first taste of blood in the Spanish-American War of 1898. There were no complaints and returning veterans gave a good account of the new Colts. It was only in 1899, when America decided to go empire building in the Philippines, that the trouble began.

    The Moro warriors were Muslim fanatics, not too far removed from the terrorists being faced by American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan today. To make matters worse, the Moros had been fighting the Spanish for more than 20 years when the first Americans arrived.

    Gen. John “Blackjack” Pershing was a young captain when he was sent to Manilla and the Colt .38 impressed him so much that he ordered them issued to his men in the Mexican War of 1916 and subsequently World War I, despite the fact that the 1911 Colt .45 automatic had become widely available.

    However, the soldiers grumbled, as soldiers are wont to do. Some of them claimed not only that the Colt .38’s lacked sufficient stopping power, but that the .30-40 Krag rifles they’d been issued also weren’t up to the task. Overlooked by many gun writers is the fact that many if not most of these troops were green recruits, poorly trained and quite likely lacking in the marksmanship department.

    Surely the Krag’s record in the hunting field, where it has successfully taken game ranging from Alaskan brown bear to buffalo, would indicate it has more than enough power to drop a small-statured Philippino adversary.

    However, the newspapers of the day played up the controversy. The military responded by bringing some old Single Action Army .45’s out of mothballs and purchasing several thousand of the old Colt rod-ejector .45 double actions for issue to the troops. They also established the Thompson-LaGarde Commission of 1904, which, after testing various rounds on live cattle, concluded that the .45 was the best bet for a combat handgun.

    “The Board was of the opinion that a bullet, which will have the shock effect and stopping effect at short ranges necessary for a military pistol or revolver, should have a caliber not less than .45," the board concluded. (The Commission's report actually showed that none of the pistol cartridges tested were effective at killing cattle; the recommendation to switch to .45 caliber was based entirely on pre-existing bias. -Ed)

    In 1911 the New Army and Navy revolvers were replaced by new Colt autos as the standard military handgun, although they remained in government service for years to come. In addition to WW I, they soldiered on into the 1920’s and 30’s and thousands were shipped to Great Britian under the Lend-Lease program in World War II. Because of their use on U.S. Coast Guard vessels during that conflict, the old Colts are listed as “substitute standard” by historians and collectors of arms from that war.

    Let’s get down to brass tacks. Do guns chambered for the .38 Long Colt cartridge have any place in the world of personal civilian defense today? Sure they do.

    Currently, the round is being produced by the Black Hills, Goex, Ultramax and Ten-X ammunition companies, and it also available through some of the custom ammunition makers like Stars & Stripes and Gad Custom Ammunition. Prices range from $18 to $32 a box, so do some shopping. The cartridge’s revival has been do to the popularity of Cowboy Action Shooting and the plethora of single action weapons based on the old 1851 and 1861 Navy madel cartridge conversions.

    The Ultramax fires a 158-grain, flat nose, lead bullet at 700 fps. The Black Hills fires the same bullet at 650 fps and the others use 145 or 150 grain bullets at 650 to 710 fps. I prefer the Ultrmax and its 210 foot-pounds of muzzle energy for social work.

    This beats the pants off any .32 ACP on the market and also leaves standard velocity loadings of the .380 ACP. Its muzzle energy is comparable to the Cor-Bon .380 Self Defense 98-grain JHP loading, athough the much heavier bullet of the .38 Colt would get the nod for its superior penetration.

    Likewise, the .32 H&R Magnum Personal Defense load offered by Federal produces muzzle energy similar to the .38, though in my view the old Colt round’s larger diameter and far heavier bullet would win the day.

    Other comparable cartridges include the 9x18 Makarov and the 148 grain wadcutter load offered in .38 Special. All of these rounds have been employed in the role of self defense and there is no reason that the .38 Long Colt should not be considered among them.

    The Colt New Army and Navy revolvers are a bargain on today’s gun market, often selling for around $200. Get youself one in good condition and you’ll have a fine double action revolver that is perfectly suited for night-stand duty and is a collector’s item as well.

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    A few things not said: The .38 Colt is a smaller version of the .41 Colt I have spent a LOT of time sorting out. It is not just a shorter .38 Special like some assume. The case is, but not the bullet. The original bullets were heel-base bullets with the OD of the bullet the same as the OD of the case. The original groove diameters of the barrel were about 0.375", not the 0.357" of .38's made today. In addition, they were very soft lead, which added to their effectiveness.

    Some time afterward, the bullets were changed to fully encased in brass, inside lubed, and made with a large hollow-base. This is when the name went to .38 Long Colt. I have no idea if the change was made before or after the unfortunate incidents in the Philippines. I have read that the Moro's got hopped up on local drugs before running amok, which would make a difference in the "effectiveness" of any cartridge. However, I don't know if it was widespread or even true.

    One thing about the old Army/Navy 1892 series is that you don't have to handload for them. You can shoot hollow-base target (meaning low power) .38 Specials in them without blowing anything up. I have used Federal target wadcutters to good effect. The hollow-base target bullet works just as good as the ones the .38 Long Colt used. The longer brass case is not a problem since the Army/Navy's have straight-through bored cylinders. In fact, most pawn shops I have seen label the 1892's as being .38 Special caliber. I imagine it makes them easier to sell.

    I do not know what the bore/groove diameter of the present .38 Colt replicas are (0.357" or 0.375"). Can anyone enlighten me on that?

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    To my knowledge the bullet diameter of both the .38 Short Colt and .38 Long colt have always been .357 inches in diameter. They may have used heel-type bullets that were of smaller general diameter than .357" with the "heel" flaring out to seal the bore.

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    Correction:

    The Army changed out the .363 diameter barrels for .357 ones in 1901 to coincide with going to inside lubed bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunfan View Post
    Correction:

    The Army changed out the .363 diameter barrels for .357 ones in 1901 to coincide with going to inside lubed bullets.

    Scott
    Yeah, too bad they left the chambers bored straight through. Doesn't do much good to have a barrel that accommodates a .358 boolit if the chamber wants .364 or so. Hollow base are relatively hard to get these days, in anything but a full wadcutter. If I had one of these, I'd have to look carefully at shooting the .38 Special HBWC loads (the longer brass should help a lot in minimizing boolit damage from upsetting in the chamber and then swaging back down in the forcing cone). For that matter, if one could reliably sequester the ammunition, it might make sense to use .38 Special cases (or even .357 trimmed to cylinder length) and load the bullet fully inside, just for this reason. Sequestering ammo would be fairly easy, since a .38 Special with anything but a wadcutter won't let you close the cylinder...

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