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    Reloading in the good old days???

    I looked around the web, but couldn't find much.
    I'm assuming home reloading was done as soon as the metallic cartridge came out.
    I'm wondering what kind of tools the first reloaders used???
    Antone have a link to pictures????
    How it was done???
    Maybe a living history buff who does it, with period tools???
    I'm sure they didn't have any Rock Chuckers way back then.

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    Some Frankford Arsenal Reloading Kits here.

    https://trapdoorcollector.com/reloadingkits.html
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    Next time "Valdez is Coming" shows up on TV tune in, with Burt Lancaster. He's kinda doing the set up from that time. When he said the words "My own load", reloading in the field. I was hooked. I had to do that also. 1971. Also, in the original "Unforgiven" movie with Burt and my hero Audie Murphy He and Doug McClure are casting bullets during an Indian fight.
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    belding and mull made reloading tools going way back in the good ole days. and ideal got into it in 1884.
    https://www.reloadingtool.com/ideal-...eloading-tool- im always on the lookout for these old gems

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    Last edited by M-Tecs; 03-09-2023 at 06:37 PM.
    2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. - "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

    "Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there’s absolutely no point."
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    I would have to put one of the boxed sets on display in my house!
    IF I had one!!!!!
    I would have to load a few rounds with it also!!!

    Neat stuff!

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    Hop to the 3min mark
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    Quigly (Down Under) had to stop by the local General Store to get supplies 'to make his reloads' in the movie.

    Just a guess, but I figure it was historically correct for the time period.
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    What I find even more interesting are some of the historical accounts of the methods the Indians used. Reloading primers using match heads was common.
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    The first Ideal catalogs are very interesting and informative.
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    I think it was a Brian Keith movie where he was teaching somebody how to shoot. Every time the guy shot, he would dump his brass on the ground and Brian Keith's character would tell him to pick it up so it could be reloaded. I can't remember if they actually showed the reloading.
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    Hugh O'Brien sitting at a table out in the street reloading pistol cartridges...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquatch-1 View Post
    I think it was a Brian Keith movie where he was teaching somebody how to shoot. Every time the guy shot, he would dump his brass on the ground and Brian Keith's character would tell him to pick it up so it could be reloaded. I can't remember if they actually showed the reloading.
    Steve McQueen was in that. He also had/used a combo gun of shot and rifle. Nevada Smith. Out in the West in the 1890's, Max Sand begins a quest to hunt down a trio of gunslingers who murdered his parents, as he's seeking vengeance.

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    In "Lives of a Bengal Lancer" the Afghans are casting boolits and scooping black powder into cartridge cases. In "The Unforgiven" Burt Lancaster and his characters family melt lead soldiers into boolits while being attacked by the Comanche.
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    I was watching an early Zane Grey last night with Noah Berry Sr. Time was about 1875-80. He was casting bullets with a '94 model Winchester mold. Also seemed to be weighing charges with something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfdog91 View Post
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    I really enjoyed that video immensely, thanks for posting it.

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    Any idea when the first home press came out???
    I have seen those "nut cracker" all in one reloaders.
    Would the Lee "tap, tap" be something that would have been used way back then???

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    Quote Originally Posted by abunaitoo View Post
    Would the Lee "tap, tap" be something that would have been used way back then???
    That would be the Frankford Arsenal Reloading Kits.50-70 Reloading Set I listed in post #2.
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    You need to remember in that time travel was mostly horseback or horse drawn wagon. So weight and size limited what they could carry. Buffalo and market hunters were more concerned with the hides and meat and hauling what paid.

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    The 45 3 1/4" that we call the 45-120 did not exist during this time period. The 45 2 7/8" today known as the 45-110 did. The claim is it could be loaded with 120 grains of BP and this is what he used.
    https://www.gunsandammo.com/editoria...%20the%20field.

    Reasoning logically that guns are of primary importance to a professional hunter, Frank bought the best rifles obtainable. His precious scope sight he had fitted to a .45-120-550 Sharps, weighing 16 pounds and sighted in to hit the bullseye at 200 yards. For alternate rifles - an absolute necessity in those days of black powder ammunition and excessive fouling of barrels - he selected a .40-70 and a .40-90 Sharps. Wisely, he spent $225 for a complete reloading outfit. Thousands of hides were lost when hunt*ers ran out of cartridges in the field. Frank didn't intend to lose a single skin playing the fool that way.

    More details here https://shilohrifle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2028
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
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