So... How about a 31141 or 311041 6 hole?

[C1PNR]

Old version specs:

1. 0.311" to 0.312" drive bands behind crimp groove work well.
Most 30-30 chambers won't accept a bullet much over
0.3115" to 0.312".

2. 0.300" nose and below do NOT work well because they
won't touch much of anything, at least in my rifles.
0.302" nose jam up in some rifles. Nose should be
from 0.301" min. to 0.3015" max. 0.301" would be
good to shoot for.

3. The band in front of the crimp groove is critical if you want
accuracy. 0.302" doesn't touch at all. 0.303" touches some.
Maybe 0.304" would do it.

Or maybe the question should be "Can" Lee do what we want?

I would have a use for an oversize, and, come to think of it, one finished undersize "may" work in the K-31.

[BorderBrewer]

Hi David,
If this is an original 311041 count me in.

Thanks,
Borderbrewer

[David R]

David R 1
Dr.A 1
RVpiolet76 ? You in?
Willbird 1 !
KB291 1
MEL-4857 1
Porkchop Bob 1
JC cherry 1
Junior 1942 1
Poorboy 1
Sixgunner452 1
Borderman 1
Borderbrewer 1
C1PNR 1?

Looks like we are up to Lucky 13 give or take. 1/2 way to the mimimum.

David

[dmdracer]

I can see the dif in the pics of the modified version but don't know the effect of the modification. what was the change for?
I'd probably be in on the buy also.

[David R]

I think the only modifacation is going to be make it a little fatter for those that need it. I don't but I am only one buyer.

There is a Lymen Old versioinand New Version. I think the only difference is the front driving band.

David

[bdoyle]

Various people have stated that they want an 'original' 311041. Just what is that? The bullet I sent 45 2.1 was a lyman mould labled 31141. It came in a white cardboard box with black stripes. Not sure what years they used those boxes. So it isn't a 'new' design but I feel that lyman changes things as cherries wear out and sales vary. So it is possible that there are a number of designs out there with the designation 31141 and eventually 311041. Subtle changes but dimentionally different. So I feel that we need to start talking numbers, designs ect. I don't have the 'other' design so I can't talk to that, but I feel the changes that were made on my version were made to favor or allow for the marlin microbore. Where the winchester bore is .308/.300 the marlin is 308/.303.

(i apologise for the pot stirring)

Brian

[floodgate]

bdoyle:

"The bullet I sent 45 2.1 was a lyman mould labled 31141. It came in a white cardboard box with black stripes. Not sure what years they used those boxes."

The black, gray and white boxes date from the period 1969 - 1978 when the former Lyman Gun Sight Corporation was owned by the Leisure Group consortium; the gray-painted tools also date from this period. In 1978, Lyman's Centennial year, J. Mace Thompson bought Lyman out from Leisure Group and it became the present Lyman Products Corporation. This may help in dating various Lyman items - IF they are in their original boxes. It is not surprising that profiles of specific bullet designs varied from cherry to cherry during this period. floodgate

[Bodydoc447]

My stomach wouldn't know what to do without its regular ration of ramen. count me in for one, too

Doc

[Wayne Smith]

After reading all three pages I'm not sure what I'd be buying. Whoever is heading this up please post the final design and then let's all shut up about what we want vs what we're gonna get, OK?

[David R]

Wayne,

See Post # 30 for a pic. The only change is

301 nose and 312 OD

This will be an exact copy of 31141, OLD version. Should weigh around 174 grains of wheel weights.

Getting more interest as time goes on. I am looking forward to mine.

David

[porkchop bob]

Wayne,

See Post # 30 for a pic. The only change is

301 nose and 312 OD

This will be an exact copy of 31141, OLD version. Should weigh around 174 grains of wheel weights.

Getting more interest as time goes on. I am looking forward to mine.

David

David, are you ready for checks to be sent? If so, please post details. I am looking forward to mine as well. Thanks, Bob

[David R]

David, are you ready for checks to be sent? If so, please post details. I am looking forward to mine as well. Thanks, Bob

Waiting for 25 commitments. We are past half way now.

[Dr. A]

Is this posted on other boards?

[David R]

Umm, no. This is my first time at this. I do see quite a bit of interest already.

Which other boards? Accurate arms? This is the only one I use, Its my home.

Suggestions greatfully accepeted

David

[Junior1942]

I posted it twice on the www.leverguns.com forum.

[slug]

I'm in.
Let me know where to send the $$$.
Stew

[Dr. A]

Greybeards is questionable. He generally discouraged the 180gr. 357. Marlinowners, and Beartooth are possibilities. Again, with Beartooth, I feel a little funny because of indirect competition.

[David R]

Thanks Junior

[black river]

I just read this over on the Marlin Owers board. Thank you Dr A. I am leaving right now for bow hunting in eastern Washington State. I would like to order this mold. When is the cut off date to send the money?

[David R]

Black River,

We have not started taking orders yet, we are up to about 17 commitments. When I see 25 commitments or a few more, I will start taking checks for at least one month.

I am not going to rush this, although it seems those that want one REALLY want it.

Where ya from? I lived near the Black River that goes through Watertown NY

David