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Thread: How many grains in a pound of lead?

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    How many grains in a pound of lead?

    I believe I've heard that 7000gr = a pound of BP, but that's a volume measurement. What is grains per pound in a weight measurement of lead?

    Also, scrap lead sells @ .85/lb at a local scrap metals yard in my location. Is this a reasonable deal?

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    It is not a volume measurement, it is a weight measurement. 7000 grains of anything equals one pound. Lead, powder, wheat, whatever. As for the lead price, around here it is a decent price if the lead is reasonably clean, not if it is a bunch of old plumbing pipes full of deposits. Kinda depends on what is available in your area and how much you need it. I'm full up of WW type lead but I still pay a good price for very soft lead as I mostly shoot BP.
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    http://www.asknumbers.com/PoundsToGrains.aspx

    Now you know. I'm ashamed of such a question from my home town -BTW there is NO "Tri cities" WA. It's Pasco, Kennewick and Richland, you only live in ONE not all of them.

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    The grain is not volumetric, as stated.

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    OK...my mistake. I was under the impression that grains could be measured both by volume & weight, as ounces are. Appreciate the correction.

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    do not fret ...I knew a feller that thought grains of powder involved counting them....he had an old lyman reloading manual, but I am damn glad he never ventured any farther.

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    Volume ounces are fluid ounces, or the volume of one ounce of water.

    So they are really a derived unit, like a litre is the volume of one kg of water.

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    Dram has a volume meaning as well as mass, but IIRC it's liquid volume. Maybe that's what you were thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frozone View Post
    Now you know. I'm ashamed of such a question from my home town -BTW there is NO "Tri cities" WA. It's Pasco, Kennewick and Richland, you only live in ONE not all of them.
    Frozone, I do that in order to retain some anonymity when I ask embarrassing questions.

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    Well how much heavier is a lb of lead over a lb of feathers?
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    1 grain =1 plump grain of wheat 7000 of them in a pound

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    A grain is a unit of with in the avoirdupois system of measurement. It is 1/7000 of a pound.

    A dram, as Gear mentioned, is also a unit of mass in that system of measurement.

    A dram can also be a unit of volume equal to 1/8 of an ounce. It is used today in medicine to signify a teaspoonful, which is 5 ml in the metric system.

    Pharmacy school can be helpful.

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    So...after all this, 1 lb of lead will yield approx 17 405gr bullets. I have to buy many many lbs of that scrap lead here IN THE TRI CITIES, WA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfer View Post
    Well how much heavier is a lb of lead over a lb of feathers?
    Depends. The lead would FEEL heavier if you drop it on your foot!

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    You can get more shots from a lb of feathers. I once loaded a 12 ga shell with breast feathers when we were doing a lot of dove hunting. Slipped it in my buddy's gun and the look on his face was priceless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by btroj View Post
    A grain is a unit of with in the avoirdupois system of measurement. It is 1/7000 of a pound.

    A dram, as Gear mentioned, is also a unit of mass in that system of measurement.

    A dram can also be a unit of volume equal to 1/8 of an ounce. It is used today in medicine to signify a teaspoonful, which is 5 ml in the metric system.

    Pharmacy school can be helpful.
    I was going to mention the avoirdupois system but I couldn't remember how to spell it, thanks for refreshing me. General Inorganic was a class I took a loooooong time ago.

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    you learn the avoirdupois systen when converting shotshell loads from black powder measurements.
    that's where the 2-3/4 and 3 dram equivelant smokeless loads come from.
    that is still shown on a box of shotshells nowdays.
    2-3/4 dram equals 1150 fps and 3 dram is 1200 fps.
    except in a 20 guage then 2-1/2 dram is 1150 fps.
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    it's all an educated guess,,,, till the trigger is pulled.

    the more i find out about shootin boolits, the more it contradicts everything i ever learned about shooting jaxketed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlbarr View Post
    THE TRI CITIES, WA.
    Now you got it right. It's "THE" tri cities, and that's fine.
    Just don't do that lazyliberalfromoutofstate onlycamehereforthenukecleanupmoney BS 'tri city' thing

    Those of us who grew up in Franklin county don't care much for Benton.
    That all got started in the 70's when a bunch of TV news people came in from Kalifornia, they just didn't get the 'THE' thing and started calling it 'tri cities'.
    No amount of correction, and there was a lot, could beat it out of them.
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    I can visualize someone counting the individual "grains" of powder in a 1 lb can.

    The operative word in the shotshell load nomenclature is "equivalent".

    Don't get me started on "weight by volume" either. Nor, unless you live in Europe, using grams instead of grains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfer View Post
    You can get more shots from a lb of feathers. I once loaded a 12 ga shell with breast feathers when we were doing a lot of dove hunting. Slipped it in my buddy's gun and the look on his face was priceless.

    I've seen that a couple of times.....don't know where those shells came from....

    Best one I ever saw.....dove shoot on my grandfather's farm....I was just a kid retrieving dead birds.....Mom's cousin laid his gun down and went to get a sandwich out of his truck. My uncle (Mom's brother) slipped a couple of ringed shells in his gun...(see here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3M46XVfVOU to see what I'm talkin' about)

    The next two birds that passed his stand exploded in a ball of feathers. He couldn't understand why there wasn't anything left to pick up.

    I know nobody said anything that day....they weren't going to own up to a prank that backfired. I don't know if anybody ever told him what happened.

    Thanks for the memories.

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