H&R 1871 Target Classic

[lonewolf5347]

Yep:
All is need is to send in the stock and action on the 38-55 (less barrel)
and you will have a new 45-70 also
you may have to purchase extra sights for the 45-70

[lonewolf5347]

http://www.hr1871.com/Support/accessoryProgram.aspx

[jjamna]

Thanks Lonewolf

[Boomer Mikey]

Yep:
All is need is to send in the stock and action on the 38-55 (less barrel)
and you will have a new 45-70 also
you may have to purchase extra sights for the 45-70

The sights they come with are junk anyway.

Boomer

[jjamna]

What about the guns?

[JSnover]

The sights they come with are junk anyway.

Boomer

I'll second that!
The rear sight is not sufficient for low-velocity work (not enough elevation) and the Lyman 17A doesn't offer enough insert options for shooting beyond 100 yards. I thought I could work around that but other maker's inserts can't be used, so the Lyman is gone and I gotta tell ya; it was an adventure getting that little sob outta that round barrel!
Still, it's a decent rifle for the price and there's quite a bit you can do to trick it out.

[Boz330]

I'll second that!
The rear sight is not sufficient for low-velocity work (not enough elevation) and the Lyman 17A doesn't offer enough insert options for shooting beyond 100 yards. I thought I could work around that but other maker's inserts can't be used, so the Lyman is gone and I gotta tell ya; it was an adventure getting that little sob outta that round barrel!
Still, it's a decent rifle for the price and there's quite a bit you can do to trick it out.

Brownells carries the Lee Shaver inserts for the 17A, a much better selection of inserts. For hunting I like the cross hair, but for longer range there are some other options.

Bob

[JSnover]

Thanks Boz! Brownell's was about the only place i didn't look.....

[Boz330]

Thanks Boz! Brownell's was about the only place i didn't look.....

Well it is pretty easy to get lost in their catalog, even when you know they have it. I only knew because I ordered a set. One reason that I love this Forum!!!!!!!

Bob

[nemo]

I GOT my 38 55 to shoot to had to mike all brass . some WW,Win brass is 0.010 neck thickes 4 out of 19 rest .0062 to .0093 . I used .0062 to 0074. with a cast lyman .375248 at 248,249 gr. My alloy Hard. 50yd @ 2.0 in needs tuing. used IMR 3031 kind slow . I brought JJ stuff @ .375 That did not grab the rifing keyholed at 50 yards 4 out 8 cast had llu and pan alox not sized dia. .377 out mould.
Shot 250 today @ 200 and 250 with 4 to 5 in need more tuning thinking a bout AA#9
Nemo

[lonewolf5347]

I read a few back post my 38-55 slug the bore at .375 groove and .379 land to land,I had a member here send me a few cast boolets in .379 and .381
I loaded a few in the WW brass and had no problem with the .379 to chamber but the larger .381 was a NO GO
I called starline and ask for a few sample cases in 38-55 :they came the other day and I did test the .381 and the starline brass it chambered with out any problems.

[garandsrus]

Lonewolf,

If you measure the case thickness, the Starline cases are thinner than the blown out 30-30's or .375 Win so you can seat the fatter boolit.

John

[Lumpie]

They sure don't give those Vernier sights away, that being said I'd sure like to have one or two of them. If I remember right there were several models of these, which one fits our rifles?
Jeff

I am like Forest Gump I am not a smart man, but I know what a good sight is. There is an old gentleman that lives in OIklahoma city Okla. that makes the best Vernier sight I have ever seen. No flat spring. That is not the thing for an accurate rifle to start with. I have about a dozen of his sights and they are top notch. If you are interested give me a mail for number.

[SwedeNelson]

C Sharps makes a good set up for a little over $100.00
You will need to cut dove tails for them.





This is on a .357 Max with a Buff stock set.
Works very well and looks period. (What ever that is?)

You can find them at:
http://www.csharpsarms.com/sharps_sights.php

Another option is a brass scope.



Or a Browning Tang set up.
This is a Douglas barrel in .40/65 (A very good shooter.)



Sight is set up on a false brass tang.



I think I have tried just about every thing.
My .38/55 is a custom Badger octagon barrel.
with a 32" 4X Brass scope. Good looking rifle for a H&R.



This was the last time out. 10 shot group at 100 yards.
Hard to control the vertical stringing but a good shooter.

Swede Nelson

[jim4065]

Swede,

I really like the looks of that brass scope! Where did you get it, and was mounting it a "gunsmith" job?

Jim

[725]

SwedeNelson,
If I may, where did you get a .357max barrel for the H&R BC? Does it have a good throat for accurate shooting? I would be very interested in a set up like that.
725

[SwedeNelson]

jim4065

Its a DGW scope.
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product...7054b7a64c8f8f

The mounts that come with it suck big time. They went in the trash.
Had to use MVA mounts -Very expensive- great mounts.

A better choice would be a Leatherwood Malcolm set up.
http://www.leatherwoodoptics.com/index-malcolm.html

You do have to drill & tap 4 holes for the MVA mounts.

725

My .357 Max was a .357 Mag with a very long throat.
Reaming it out to max fixed the throut problem.
Not hard to do if you have a reamer. You can do it
by hand.

Swede Nelson

[725]

Thanks, Swede. My missreading made me think you had a long BC barrel in .357 max. I'd kind of like to have had a long barrel .357 max. That would be different.
725

[SwedeNelson]

725

Long is good, but the 22" stock barrel does OK.
H&R has a .45 Long Colt that I would like to play with.
A baby buff!

Swede Nelson

[405]

Not much help here. Have only owned one a 22 revolver and it shoots pretty well. The only other I've had any experience with was a new 22 Hornet single shot.... that thing shot so poorly it couldn't hit the ground! But the "Aitch & Aura" 38-55 can't have any more chamber-throat-groove diameter issues than some of the early Winchester 94 38-55s... whew! Careful selection and sizing of bullets and brass is the only way. Either very frustrating or very rewarding.