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Thread: Alloy to use for .45 colt?

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    Alloy to use for .45 colt?

    I just bought a Ruger new vaquero in .45Colt Most loads in the lyman manual call for lyman #2. My question is ,do I need to use an alloy this hard for a bullet that will be moving at around 850fps. I was thinking I could use 50/50 ww&pb What are you .45 Colt shooters using? Thanks.
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    I use 20:1 over 8 grains of Unique for my .45 Colt loads. Ammo is used in a Rossi carbine, S&W M25, Uperti Schofield, Ciimarron/Uberti 1873 SAA and a U.S. Fire Arms SAA. They do not lead or give accuracy problems. I would think your alloy would work fine.

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    For 800 fps I would go 25/75 ww/Pb. Lyman 2 is using an awful lot of stuff that isn't required.

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    I agree. 50/50 mix with Layman could be considered rich. But, you will be fine with that mix. Can warm the loads up abit if desired. Anyway.... That is what I blend with my 'trash' lead i smelt.

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    I've been shooting/casting .45 Colt for almost 30 years and I've used almost exclusively straight range lead (COWW when my range stock is out) that whole time. As long as they're lubed/sized correctly, my 45 guns aren't too picky and don't fuss.
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    Thank you all for the tips. You confirmed what I was thinking. I just wanted to make sure about things before I dove into it.
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    I have a Rossi carbine in my near future and am looking at potential loads. I’ve been using Accurate #2 in my pistol loads and am a real fan of it.

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    i'll put the alloy question into perspective for ya.
    winchester and remington both used 40-1 alloy in their 45 colt loads for over 100 years.
    38 specials too and in the 44 special and...

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    Quote Originally Posted by josper View Post
    I just bought a Ruger new vaquero in .45Colt Most loads in the lyman manual call for lyman #2. My question is ,do I need to use an alloy this hard for a bullet that will be moving at around 850fps. I was thinking I could use 50/50 ww&pb What are you .45 Colt shooters using? Thanks.
    My first post. I use 30:1 lead for my Ruger Blackhawk over 5.8 gr. of TightGroup. No leading. Nice easy shooting load.
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    I've a got a bunch of time feeding 45 Colts. I use what ever lead I have, mostly WW with a bit of tin. I use LBT lube for everything, size the bullets .454., 8.5 to 9.5 grains of Unique, Winchester primers.
    My Rossi is fed a 300 grain Saeco, gas checked, ahead of 20 grains of H110, the same Winchester primers and sized .454.
    All of my 45 Colt barrels have lapped.

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    You don't need #2 for 850fps. I use the same alloy I use for my 45acp; range scrape or 50/50 lead & clip ww. If I run hotter loads, into the 1000fps range, then straight ww works fine.
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    My BP 45 Colt reloads run close to 875 fps. I cast the 454190's strictly with Bhn 13.5 or 15.4 wheel weights. Average year is about 2400 of these reloads for CAS - no lube starvation - no leading in either the revolvers or the rifles

    If it makes one feel good, just mix 1/2% tin to the WW's for your alloy
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    I've been using 49% WW's with 49% pure lead with 2% tin in my SAA Colts over the past 14 yrs. I'm running a 200 grn. RNFP cast bullet with 5 grns. of Red Dot. This is a light recoil CAS load running around 730 Ft/Sec. I'm sizing my bullets at .453". The only leading issues I ever see are in the forcing cone and that's something I can live with. No leading issues with my rifle at all.

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    Just checking through the archives. Was planning on 50/50 COWW/soft lead + 2% tin for 45 Colt,CAS levels and 44 Magnum for plinking and target. Glad to confirm it has been used-correction-is being used successfully by others with similar needs.

    another old thread resurected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by runfiverun View Post
    ......winchester and remington both used 40-1 alloy in their 45 colt loads for over 100 years....
    And many of we old boffins do too. I get mine from Roto Metals.

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    I agree with your first suggestion, 50/50 COWW & Pure Lead. Add a bit of Tin if you need it for better fill-out.

    My Vaqueros are .44 mag, but I load them down to .45 LC power for cowboy shooting and they shoot very well with that alloy mix. I am a lazy caster and like close to 100% good bullets, so I do add some Tin, but not more than 1-2% total in the mix, some of which comes from the COWW alloy.
    Last edited by Defcon-One; 12-16-2013 at 05:39 PM.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/18...to-green-ammo/ What are you fellows going to use now ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    And many of we old boffins do too. I get mine from Roto Metals.
    Silly boys, we all know handguns all require hardball at a minimum.......

    Those soft bullets just won't work with heavy loads like some of the real cowboys used. Just don't tell Elmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    And many of we old boffins do too. I get mine from Roto Metals.
    Me too. I'm almost pure lead for my Colt. Get mine from a local source at about .80 per pound.

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