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What is your favorite reduced load?
The ones you would put together for rifle or revolver?
Bill
If this topic isn't in the correct place, let me know and I'll repost it in the right spot!
What is your favorite reduced load?
The ones you would put together for rifle or revolver?
Bill
6.5 grains of Red Dot under a 250 grain keith boolit, in a 45LC.
I shoot a thousand or so per year of this load.
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..............45-70, 12.0 Unique and either the Lyman 292 FNPB or the RCBS 300gr FNGC.
30-06 is 8.0 SR7625 and the Lee C309-113F
357 is 3.0 W231 and most any 140 to 158 WC or SWC.
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.45-70 or .458 Win Mag -- .457 roundball & 9 gr Unique It's a real zipper, resonably accurate (enough for rabbits and coons), and quiet.
11 gr of Red Dot in basically any military cartridge of the 30 cal class with bullets up to 200 gr.
19.5 grs. of 4759 with 180-205gr. cast gc bullet in the .308 Win.
My Standard Loads, where typical means start one grain lower than shown:
32WS is 30-33 of any of the H335/WC844 variants with the one and only RCBS 170 grainer.
35Rem is 38-40 of any of the H335/WC844 variants with any of the 180 grainer boolits.
308W is 23.0 VeeVee-N120 and the Lee C309-113F.
22-250 is 15.0 VeeVee-N110, or 19.0 VeeVee-N120 and the Lyman 225646.
222 is 9.0 BlueDot, or VeeVee-N105 and the Lyman 225646.
357Mag is 13.0 WC820 or 13.0 AA-9, any boolit/bullet at or less than 165 grains.
44Mag is 19.5 WC820 typical or 18.5 AA-9 for any boolit/bullet at or less than 250 grains.
41Mag is 17.5 WC820 typical for any of the 220-230 Keith types.
45Colt is a case full of RL7 or WC680 with any boolit heavier than 300 grains with zero compression, boolit just touching powder. This is NOT a cowboy load.
... felix
Last edited by felix; 06-28-2007 at 10:04 AM.
felix
11.5 grs. of 820 with 115 gr. RCBS cast gc boolit in the M1 Carbine. Ron
30-06 - 20-22/4227 and just about any GC'd 165-200 grainer
35 Whelan - 38-40/4895 or 40-42/4064 and 358009 (not really a reduced load)
6.5x55 - 17.0/4227 and Ly 150 grainer (don't recall the #)
32 Win Spl - what Felix said
308 Win - 4895 and 311041 and push it as hard as accuracy allows
30-30 - 16.0/4227 and 311041 (this is a very mild shooting and accurate load)
.357 Mag - 10.0/HS7 and 358156 (nice medium load)
35 Rem - 4895 and the RSBS 35-200-FN (you pick the charge/fps)
44 Mag or 44 Spl - any of the Grn Dot cowboy loads (I prefer Lee 200 RF for the light loads)
5gr BP or Sub under Farina and a 180gr pure lead boolit in .38 or .357... though I may try 1gr Titegroup next...
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357 Magnum 4 grains TiteGroup and any 158-160 grain cast bullet (cowboy load)
357 Magnum 15 grains H110 and 170 Sierra JHC, 13-15 grains H110 and any 180 -200 grain cast bullet [Federal 205 primers] (full power loads)
375 Win./38-55 23-25 grains H4198 255 grain cast bullet.
44 Magnum 6.4 grains TiteGroup and any 240 grain cast bullet (cowboy load)
45-70 25 grains H4198 & RCBS 45-325-FN-U Plain Base
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Most of my rifle CB loads could be called "reduced," being in the 1400-1800 fps muzzle velocitiy range. To avoid redundancy, I'll list only one greatly reduced load. Rifle and revolver .44 Magnum load: 7.0 gr. Green Dot/RCBS 245 PB SWC. This load is very accurate in a S&W 8 3/8" M629, mv 950. It also shoots about as good as any load in a Marlin Cowboy 24", mv 1200.
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30 - 06 Springfield
11.5 grs. Unique
Cast bullet 160 - 200 grs. in weight.
Always an accurate load in all 06's I've shot it in.
Ben
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7.62 x 39 311466 13.0 WC820
7.62 x 54R 311334 21.0 IMR4198
7.5 x 55 311291U 18.0 SR4759
6.5 X 55 266469 14.0 WC820
303 British 311334 17.0 IMR4227
30-06 311299 21.0 IMR4198
7.62 X 25 3118 7.3 WC820
44 special 429421 4.0 Bullseye
Been trying to perfect these for a while, all are accurate for me.
Frugal
45-70 43gr IMR 4064 w/405gr CB = 1400fps
30-40 23gr IMR 4198 w/ 208gr CB = 1700fps
Both are deadly accurate and recoil is mild.
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457124 over 26 gr. 2400 in 45-70
375449 over 15 gr. RD in 375H&H
250 Lee over 15 gr. RD in 375H&H
311291 over 22 gr. 2400 in O6
311284 over 22 gr. 2400 in O6
311332&311644 over 21 gr. 2400 in 06
311359 over 20 gr. 2400 in 308
311359 over 13 gr. RD in 308 & 06
358429 over 12 gr. 2400 in 357, Rifle
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All brass: Rem
All primers: CCI200
Groups were shot from the bench w/ forearm rest.
Marlin 1895 .45-70 -- 23 gr SR-4759 + 340 gr Lee cast from straight WW -- shot as cast; MV = 1265 fps; SD = 8 fps; GS = 3.0 in @ 150 yds (Williams aperture sight)
Model 1898 .30-40 Krag -- 19 gr SR-4759 + Lee C312-185-1R cast from straight WW + gas check; sized .313; MV = 1691 fps; SD = 6 fps; GS = 0.8 in @ 50 yds (military peep sight)
Soon to come -- .303 British in Savage/Enfield #4 Mk1*
Most all previous posted loads appear to be "avorite cast boolit loads" to me(?). I consider "reduced loads" to be those that take cast (or jacketed bullets) to less velocity than normally used. Most often my reduced loads are in the bottom end of velocities for any given cartridge/firearm combination, usually in the 750 to 1100 fps range. E.G.; 2.7-3.2 gr (depending on case capacity) of Bullseye under a 90 gr cast or Hornady swaged SWC .31 cal bullet in .30/.31 caliber cartriges. Also in .30/.31 calibers with 150-180 gr cast boolits 6-8 gr of Bullseye for 1050-1100 fps. My reduced load for the 45-70 is a 275 gr Rapine bullet over 8 gr of Bullseye for 1050 fps or a 210 gr HB Rapine bullet over 6 gr of Bullseye for 950-1000 fps. For handguns and example would be my reduced load in the .44 Magnum, a 240-250 gr SWC over 5 gr of Bullseye for 700 fps. I've numerous other "reduced" loads for other cartridges also, most use Bullseye powder. "Whisper loads" also use Bullseye powder and velocities of those are 250-550 fps.
Larry Gibson
30/06 : 311284 over 13gr. SR7625
41 spcl : Lee 210 SWC over 6.5gr. Trail Boss
222 : 55 JSP over 10gr. Blue Dot (I know, I know!)
357 : 158 SWC over 5gr. Red Dot
still looking for one for my Karlina W/170gr....
303 brit: Lee 200GC over 10gr. SR7625
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BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |