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Thread: IMR 4227...What Is Its Best Use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sthwestvictoria View Post
    Drat. Well I may just have to hold onto the canister of AR2205 and not use it in the 30-30. I suppose this in a sign from the gods that I need a .357 lever.
    You'd be correct there.
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    It's a great upper end powder for lead bullets in any of the magnum rev rounds.
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    Extremely popular powder with us breech seatin' schuetzen shooters. 14.0 gr. of IMR-4227 breech seated in a 32-40 case under a 200 gr bullet, wonderfully accurate. Conventionally loaded I also use 14 gr in 30-30, 32 win. spl. 7x57. 16 gr in 30-06, 18 gr in 38-55 and 35 whelen, 20 gr in 45 Colt. The only thing about 4227 I don't like is running out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 303Guy View Post
    Are other 4227's the same? Like H4227?

    Jeff, are you using IMR4227 or our local AR2205?
    If you check out the MSDS on the Hodgdon site they are all the same powder.
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    I recently worked up some loads for my Marlin 1894 CB in 45Colt with some Ranch Dog 290gr. Shot several loads but 19.2gr of 4227 was acceptable (avg velocity @ 1215). 1 & 1/8" at 50 yds. Most of five round groups I chronographed had extreme spreads around 60 or so. Did have a lot of popcorn in the barrel. Had some Marbles sight issues so decided to have another look another day.

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    Try a little bit of crimp on your loads SgtDog0311 and see it that helps the burn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sthwestvictoria View Post
    Drat. Well I may just have to hold onto the canister of AR2205 and not use it in the 30-30. I suppose this in a sign from the gods that I need a .357 lever.
    Quote Originally Posted by FergusonTO35 View Post
    You'd be correct there.
    When the .357 mold came along without me having anything in that calibre I thought it was actually a sign I needed a 35 whelen. Maybe it was for a .357 lever - why so many choices?
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    Thanks Jeff... I'll sure do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sthwestvictoria View Post
    When the .357 mold came along without me having anything in that calibre I thought it was actually a sign I needed a 35 whelen. Maybe it was for a .357 lever - why so many choices?
    Close. It was a sign that you needed to buy both. When you acquire something that has uses in multiple cartridges, you are obligated to purchase at least one of each caliber that it could be used in.

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    45lc rifle loads and its my #1 22 hornet powder. My 308 starter loads were decent and I plan on trying it in 30-06.
    I heard it referred to as a 2400 alternative so if 2400 can be used you can find similar 4227 data. Us it meters beautifully. If it hadn't been for Bullshop I would have never picked up any....

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    44 sp. and 45LC it it outstanding! but it needs a mag primer to burn it all because of the slow speed of the powder.

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    I have been reading Timothy Mullins book Letters from Elmer Keith. This is page 96:
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    Quote Originally Posted by sthwestvictoria View Post
    I have been reading Timothy Mullins book Letters from Elmer Keith. This is page 96:
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    Interesting... Elmer's 44 load of 22 grains 2400 matches Phil Sharpe's load of 22 grains 2400 in the trapdoor Springfield (... and the 43 Spanish.)

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    I have been having good lock with 4227 in my
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    I have been having good luck with 4227 in my
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    Forgot to add 357 Herrett 125-180g loads. I get less unburnt powder than my R7 loads. My 300WBY shooting 224g Lyman is looking promising with it too.

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    I use it in my 357 and in my 7.62 x 54 works very well in both

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