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Thread: 358 Winchester build planing stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren R. View Post
    I've had a barrel waiting with Ron Smith to be bored/rifled for my 358 Winchester build on a Savage 99C action now for 9 months.

    Hoping to see it by next season, but... he's got a really long wait list.

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    That will be an absolutely covetous rifle when it's done. Good call!
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodsteel View Post
    That will be an absolutely covetous rifle when it's done. Good call!
    Thanks, Tim...

    I keep second guessing myself on the strength of the 99C action, being that it's prone to twisting with all the meat gone for the magazine well.

    Even cooler part about it, is... I got the gun as a "non-shooter parts gun" from my ex's uncle. I'd had one as my first hunting rifle, and when I made the switch to a bolt-action Savage, mine went to a cousin of a cousin, to their cousin, etc. When I got this one, something seemed familiar (though definitely not the shattered stock or the rear sight blade tack-welded onto the dovetail)... so I checked against my old registrations - I'd gotten my first gun back!

    It's not a non-shooter by any means, it always just prefered 180 grain bullets and the scope was damaged from years of scabbard use.

    Anyway, decided to turn it around into a 358 Winchester and give the old girl a new lease on life - I've got .308s coming out the ying-yang already. Barrel's by Ron Smith, some other CNC work by our own Red River Rick and I've got a start on a wonderful set of furniture for her.

    Bren R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior1942 View Post
    Add me to the list of those who'd like to own a 358. I have a Turk 38 still in cosmoline, and maybe one day . . . . But there isn't much difference between .358 and .323......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior1942 View Post
    Add me to the list of those who'd like to own a 358. I have a Turk 38 still in cosmoline, and maybe one day . . . . But there isn't much difference between .358 and .323......
    There is with bullet selection. I love "the" Mauser, but I'll take a .358 Win or .35 Whelen any day of the week.
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    I have a neat little 6mm br on a rem mdl 7 with 20" pacnor barrel,no 5 taper, I keep thinking how nice it handles and how versatile it would be to have it made in to a switch barrel and add a 358 win chambering to it. Yall ain't helping none either.......

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    I wish my Savage 99 was 358.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DUKE NUKEM View Post
    I wish my Savage 99 was 358.
    How badly do you wish it? It can be done in a matter of months you know.
    Precision in the wrong place is only a placebo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodsteel View Post
    How badly do you wish it? It can be done in a matter of months you know.
    I'll check for a shooting star. That's how bad.

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    My Ruger M77 in .358 is a nice handling little gun with a 22" barrel. It's also shorter in over all length than my friend's M'99. Lop 2" off the barrel and all you will gain is more muzzle blast.

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    This winter I put together a rifle like you've described. I used a magnum profile barrel because it was what fit my budget and then cut it down to 20." I've experimented with a only few loads, but it's accurate and fun to shoot. I only shot one 3-shot 100 yd group (cold, clean bore - 1.1") and then took it hunting. The short barrel offsets the heavier profile and it's not bad at all to carry. It's lighter and handier than my Remington 7600 pump. If I had to do it over again I might go for a 22" barrel in a slightly lighter profile just to cut down on muzzle blast a little, although it's not bad at 20."


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    Quote Originally Posted by DUKE NUKEM View Post
    I wish my Savage 99 was 358.
    Why wish? Just do it. I did!

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    I've thought many times of building a .358 Win on my M7 .308 and may yet do it. Thought enough about it to check out different types of barrels and twists. If I do it I will go Krieger because they offer a cut rifled barrel with fairly deep rifling and the customer may choose the twist. Mine would be a 1-16 because there are no large beasties in this part of the country. If I won't be shooting at an elk, moose, or grizzly, I won't need heavy bullets. The slow twist will allow higher velocities with my bullet of choice (200 gr. RCBS) should I want them. I will think of it as a super .35 Remington and probably load it like a .35 Remington also. But that rifle has a fantastic trigger (worked on) and will be glass bedded and should shoot lights-out.

    Oh and on the barrel lengths....Jeff Cooper got my into the whole Scout Rifle concept and this little M7 is set up with a Scout scope and three position sling. I've tried it and for a long time. Fifteen years ago I got heavily into older milsurps and that made me a fan of longer barrels. The eyes don't work with irons anymore so I don't need sight radius, but there is no reason to subject the ears to lots of muzzle blast. Mine will be somewhere in the 22-26" range and have a conventional scope on the receiver.
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