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    simple lube.

    a few people have asked me about a simple easy to make lube.
    and here is an easy to make no fuss lube.
    the ingredients are easy to find.

    i call it simple lube.

    4 oz's beeswax [by weight solid]
    4 teaspoons of white petrolatum [vaseline]
    2 teaspoons of two stroke oil [regular ol dollar store type]
    2 teaspoons of atf [i use dexron]
    you can add 1/8th teaspoon of lanolin if you wish.

    here is the cooking instructions.
    melt the beeswax dump everything in and stir.
    pour out to cool..

    works in a lubrisizer with room temp,and should make a decent pan lube too.
    [i don't pan lube so haven't tried it.]
    you can add a third tsp of 2 stroke oil if you want it a little softer [or for quite cold weather].
    it's pretty tacky but stays in the lube grooves when rattled around with other boolits.
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    Awww, come on now, that can't possibly be any good without at least two different kinds of metal salt gellants, polybutene, polyolester oils, and synthetic EP ester additives now can it?

    Gear

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    The simple lubes do work don't they. I have used just bees wax and ATF. A little more ATF for winter time loading and a little less for hot summer months. Seems to work pretty good.

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    it could use a little softener/flexer.
    maybe a little ALOX
    seriously though:
    a tsp of alox wouldn't hurt the lube at all.

    it does shoot well, and doesn't leave a humongous lube star and isn't smokey.
    it didn't leave any antimonial wash in the bbl either...[ so nyah]
    i shot 21 rounds of it yesterday in 60-f weather with winds gusting from 10-15 mph without a break.
    just filled the magazine acquired the orange dot [which tirned into a hole] and shot the target till they were all gone,all of them held group.
    i didn't have a lot of time to fiddle faddle around as i had stuff to go do.
    and just wanted to check the zero on the wifes rifle real quick.

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    i'd like to see how it done on your wear machine though.

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    Anybody got a source for slack wax?
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    The ATF and Vaseline might be the "fix" for Speed Green in more temperate climates. A teaspoon of the liquid Alox and a teaspoon of Carnauba flakes might do well also when added to your original formula, but not unless indicated by groups in warmer or cooler weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftiye View Post
    Anybody got a source for slack wax?
    Isn't that what toilet rings are?
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    Question

    r5r, If you used either 4 tsps. of 2-Cycle Oil or 4 tsps. of ATF instead of 2 tsps. of each, would the lube be degraded? Improved? Have no real effect?

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    the atf is more of a bore conditioner/bbl lube. [it keeps things soft in the bbl]
    the two stroke burns clean and leaves very little ash behind.
    atf is a poly olefin ester, the 2 stroke oil is a poly also but it is designed to lube and burn.
    the vaseline is the modifyer/tackifyer to the b-wax.
    adding a little more/less of either oil will not have any major affect really,it's just a good balance.
    clean up with an atf [or ed's red] dampened patch will push the bore clean and condition it for the lube all at the same time.

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    What ever happened to bear fat?

    I like natural ingredients.

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    well after seeing what the dogs done to the deer trimmings from dinner tonight, i'd suspect they ate the bear fat too.
    many of us are still using animal fats it's just that most of them are synthetic or defatted stuff.
    that and i just don't have the patience to build a fire in the back yard and drag out the wash-tub and scrape the fat off a bear...
    there ain't no way i'm gonna smell the renderings from no sheep.

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    Where's the soap?!

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    Slack Wax

    Quote Originally Posted by fredj338 View Post
    Isn't that what toilet rings are?
    Yeah, I guess, but I thought I'd read that bowl wax wasn't 100% slack wax. I'm talking about the stuff from a refinery. I did a search, gear says fliudmaster bowl wax is good stuff on the "Ultimate" thread.
    Last edited by leftiye; 10-17-2012 at 07:05 AM.
    We need somebody/something to keep the government (cops and bureaucrats too) HONEST (by non government oversight).

    Every "freedom" (latitude) given to government is a loophole in the rule of law. Every loophole in the rule of law is another hole in our freedom. When they even obey the law that is. Too often government seems to feel itself above the law.

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    there's nothing to bind so no soaps needed.
    there's actually a lot more room for more oils in this recipe, but the tacky is right and theres just enough glide.
    the lube stays in the grooves when you put it there and the smallest amount of heat makes it just a bit softer.
    it's easily modified because of this..
    a little mink oil or sulpher ester,or castor oil wouldn't hurt at all either.
    carnuba would make it a high heat lube,but youd have to be near/in the 100's.
    it's a basic lube recipe with a lot of lattitude for manipulation.
    it took me a bit to get it though.

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    Level, rounded, or heaping teaspoon on the Vaseline?? Makes a difference...
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    Slack wax, bowel wax. Could someone expound on this?
    Nice recipe by the way, will mix up a batch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geargnasher View Post
    Awww, come on now, that can't possibly be any good without at least two different kinds of metal salt gellants, polybutene, polyolester oils, and synthetic EP ester additives now can it?

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    That was a little tribology humor there, MDI. Run and I have put some pretty unusual stuff down our barrels in and effort to develop better lube formulas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runfiverun View Post
    there's nothing to bind so no soaps needed.
    Soap will also raise the melt temp... which is good for us desert rats.

    Perhaps we could add soap for a summer version and retain a soap-less version for the cold??

    In making the soapy version one would need to heat the oils to about 300F and then add the soap. After cooling about 75F or so, the remaining ingredients can be added and whatcha got is basically a Felix Lube of a slightly different flavor.

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