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    Kinetic bullet puller O-ring size?

    The O-ring that holds the collet together on my kinetic bullet puller broke. I guess I lost it when I unscrewed the cap, and I cant find it to get a diameter or thickness. Its an Old RCBS unit made by Quinetics. Any ideas on size, or what will work? RCBS doesnt sell them any more, so thats out. Any help appreciated.
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    Those little gum bands orthodontists use for kids' braces are good replacements. You google them or pay a visit to your local orthodontist and ask for a small sample or bag of them. The latter will be a lifetime supply, btw.

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    If you have the shell holder you can use them instead of the collet with the bands. It works good and is way easier to use than those collets!! If you really want the O-rings check a True Value store in the Plumbing Dept they usually have a large selection with differant dia and thickness's, and there usually pretty resonable!!
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    I'll second that. The shell holder works much better than the collets. Thought most people had gone to them years ago./beagle

    Quote Originally Posted by Gliden07 View Post
    If you have the shell holder you can use them instead of the collet with the bands. It works good and is way easier to use than those collets!! If you really want the O-rings check a True Value store in the Plumbing Dept they usually have a large selection with differant dia and thickness's, and there usually pretty resonable!!
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    Collet??? What's that? I'm with Glidden and Beagle. Hardware and automotive parts stores have every conceivable size and diameter of O-ring you could imagine if you prefer the collet. I recommend the Viton automotive air-conditioning O-rings, much better than rubber and they don't rot. Good for Lube-sizer piston seals as well.

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    Learn something eveery day. Did not know the shell holder could be used in the inertial puller. Have to give that one a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Cash View Post
    Learn something eveery day. Did not know the shell holder could be used in the inertial puller. Have to give that one a try.
    Me too, just read this and went downstairs and gave it a try. Much easier than those collets .

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    Almost forgot if you use the shell holder make sure the opening on the holder points down like the handle, this will prevent any distortion of the rim of the case due to centrifigul force and the sudden stop. It really does work GREAT!!
    45 ACP because shooting more than once is just silly!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gliden07 View Post
    If you have the shell holder you can use them instead of the collet with the bands. It works good and is way easier to use than those collets!! ..........!!
    +1, haven't even used the collets on mine.

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    Quinetics is still in business.They have a new style collet and band that works real nice.You dont have to unscrew the cap all the way,just give it a twist and the components come out.Slide in another shell and have at it.7.99 plus 2.00 shipping.I got one and it works real well...Robin
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    Well I just learned something about a tool I almost hate because of that stupid collet.
    However mine has a little spring clip that holds the collet pieces together. It is almost useless and I usually end up chasing the parts around on teh floor,,, Which is why I hate the tool!

    A regular shell holder?

    This sounds way too easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Box13 View Post
    Quinetics is still in business.They have a new style collet and band that works real nice.You dont have to unscrew the cap all the way,just give it a twist and the components come out.Slide in another shell and have at it.7.99 plus 2.00 shipping.I got one and it works real well...Robin
    http://www.quineticscorp.com/newtwist.asp
    I think they're still in business, they're less than a hundred miles from me and were open a few months ago.

    The issue I think most of us are having is with straight-walled pistol cases is getting the mouth of the case started in the collet. They need to drill holes in the sides of the pieces and put springs between them to keep them apart instead of clinched together, that way they'd stay in the cap and close down when it was tightened and allow the cartridge to be dropped in. Of course then it would fall completly through unless held boolit-up and supported in position with a fingertip while the cap was snugged, so it would still be a pain. The shellholder is a great solution, and will fit both the Quinetics and the "other" plastic inertial puller design that everyone else puts their name on (RCBS, Frankford Arsenal, Graf & Sons, etc.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Cash View Post
    Learn something eveery day. Did not know the shell holder could be used in the inertial puller. Have to give that one a try.
    Ididnt either! But now I dont feel so bad, cause others didnt know about it.

    Thanks guys,

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    Quote Originally Posted by geargnasher View Post
    I think they're still in business, they're less than a hundred miles from me and were open a few months ago.

    The issue I think most of us are having is with straight-walled pistol cases is getting the mouth of the case started in the collet. They need to drill holes in the sides of the pieces and put springs between them to keep them apart instead of clinched together, that way they'd stay in the cap and close down when it was tightened and allow the cartridge to be dropped in. Of course then it would fall completly through unless held boolit-up and supported in position with a fingertip while the cap was snugged, so it would still be a pain. The shellholder is a great solution, and will fit both the Quinetics and the "other" plastic inertial puller design that everyone else puts their name on (RCBS, Frankford Arsenal, Graf & Sons, etc.).

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    Less than 100 miles from you? I thought they were in AZ! Learned two new things today.

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    Quinetics Corporation
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    Marble Falls, Texas 78654

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    I too use a shell holder but have read threads about folks that lit off a live round, blowing the plastic hammer to bits.

    Might chunk it in the trash if the primer is that high, or at least make a bushing so the case stays centered and a high primer couldn't contact metal.

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    I don't suppose someone could post a picture of the puller with the shell holder in place. I too did not know about using one.

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    I just picked up an O-ring assortment from Harbor Freight for a different project years ago. A couple times now I've reached for it to replace an O-ring in my kinetic puller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geargnasher View Post
    I think they're still in business, they're less than a hundred miles from me and were open a few months ago.

    The issue I think most of us are having is with straight-walled pistol cases is getting the mouth of the case started in the collet. They need to drill holes in the sides of the pieces and put springs between them to keep them apart instead of clinched together, that way they'd stay in the cap and close down when it was tightened and allow the cartridge to be dropped in. Of course then it would fall completly through unless held boolit-up and supported in position with a fingertip while the cap was snugged, so it would still be a pain. The shellholder is a great solution, and will fit both the Quinetics and the "other" plastic inertial puller design that everyone else puts their name on (RCBS, Frankford Arsenal, Graf & Sons, etc.).

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    Maybe that is why I never cussed mine much?
    I normally use mine for rifle loads, and never needed to completely dismantle mine for each round. I did 1600+ 30-06 rounds 2 summers ago, doing 100-200 a day. (I was surprised the concrete held up to the pounding.)
    I have used it for 45ACP as well, but not nearly as much.
    I just loosen the collar, and tapped the tool on the edge of a plastic bucket. All fell into the bucket; casing, powder, and bullet.
    (I also have case/media separator that fits a 5 gal bucket I use that works great to let the powder drop while catching the case and bullet.)

    Good advise on the Viton Rings, Gear. My first though was automotive stores (NAPA Auto parts). But one might find O-rings at the big box stores as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmorris View Post
    I too use a shell holder but have read threads about folks that lit off a live round, blowing the plastic hammer to bits.

    Might chunk it in the trash if the primer is that high, or at least make a bushing so the case stays centered and a high primer couldn't contact metal.
    Hence the advice someone offered above to orient the open side of the shellholder toward the handle so the shell can't slip off-center when swung.

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