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    It is a logistical nighmare and in the end still a nightmare, I have a semi to haul this stuff and yes it is expensive to haul this. 4.00 plus fuel is just the start. There is to much for a few people to handle in there spare time.

    Only way it would work is to hire a company to haul it to a refinery and have it asseyd and hopefully it is a good alloy or guess what you just wasted a **** load of money.

    In the end it would be way more benifical to just order DIRECT from a foundy with what ever alloy you want.

    I already looked at this and it is still expensive but atleast you know what you are getting .

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    Here is a link to a auction last December. Might be fun to look at in light of this current auction.

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...hlight=auction
    Oh great, another thread that makes me spend money.

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    80 tons of lead equals 160,000 pounds. 7000 grains times 160k gives me enough for about seven million, five hundred thousand 148gr wadcutters. l wonder how much lube l will need

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    He is right, stuff does not sell for much less than the scrap metal guys pay. I
    Quote Originally Posted by dragon813gt View Post
    It's most likely going to go for a price higher than worthwhile. Large lots like that typically go for a few cents below current scrap prices. Add in the cost of shipping/refining and you're up there in total cost. The base by me consistently has lots of fired brass. They never sell at a good price.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pmer View Post
    Here is a link to a auction last December. Might be fun to look at in light of this current auction.

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...hlight=auction
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    Quote Originally Posted by sw282 View Post
    80 tons of lead equals 160,000 pounds. 7000 grains times 160k gives me enough for about seven million, five hundred thousand 148gr wadcutters. l wonder how much lube l will need
    And Homeland Security has a contract out for what- last I heard- 1.2 BILLION rounds?

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    OK, I'm totally up for this! With construction in the sewer, I have plenty of time on my hands and could use a profitable project right now. I have the knowledge and I have the means.

    Like Dragon said, It'll probably go for near spot price so figger $1.00/lb. Superfly could haul it for about 30K. I need to cover my travel there and back plus about three months to mutilate it......soooooo.....let's say $250,000 oughta cover it nicely.

    Y'all start sending your orders right away, time's running out........money up front of course. I'll deposit the funds in a secure account... and if everything goes according to plan you can come by my shop about late February and pick up your lead at a rate of about $3.00/lb.

    Of course if the scheme doesn't work out we'll have to fall back on the contingency plan......you can just hop down to Barbados and we'll cry in our beer......my treat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodsteel View Post
    Dream crusher.
    Your'e probably right.
    You're right too, it would be a shame if it goes for cheap and we don't get a taste. We need a group by lead fund ready to go just for ocassions like this.
    Oh great, another thread that makes me spend money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chboats View Post
    I'm betting the Chinese buy it. A friend with a trap range had it mined. Ended up with 40 55 gal drums of shot. The Chinese offered him a $1.00 a pound right out of the ground with out cleaning.

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    Nothing the matter w/lead paint. Lasts 5 times longer than the junk SWP sells now. Besides l never have seen LEAD on a rest menu or cook book recipe. Half the public water pipes are LEAD. l aint dead yet

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    I have already paid for this lead ONCE. I should be able to just go pick it up, Right. I am not in the 1% but I do pay da man. EVERY YEAR.
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    sounds like Blamer's idea might have merit
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    The last few auctions have been going for about $.65 a pound, not including shipping.

    If you guys got 80 people to each kick in $1000, you MIGHT have a chance.

    However, $1000 each, for 80 people, is a lot of asking around here.

    You can bet the BIG processors will be buying this batch. That's pocket change to them.


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    158,500 pounds equals 1,109,500,000 - or one billion, one hundred nine million, five hundred thousand - grains

    That's:

    7,496,621 148 grain wadcutters. . .

    6,163,888 180 grain rifle boolits. . .

    4,741,304 230 grain round noses. . .

    4,350,980 255 grain Keiths. . .

    2,219,000 500 grain Sharps rounds. . .

    Of course, you're gonna lose so much of that in dross/oxides/fluxing that it's hardly worth getting out of bed for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeInMaine View Post
    The last few auctions have been going for about $.65 a pound, not including shipping.

    If you guys got 80 people to each kick in $1000, you MIGHT have a chance.

    However, $1000 each, for 80 people, is a lot of asking around here.

    You can bet the BIG processors will be buying this batch. That's pocket change to them.
    All we need to do is form a non profit, get a tax ID, open a bank account with several signers and a director. Let people wire money into the account. Stop at a max bid amount. If we don't win send the money back. If we win the fun really begins.. That should be no problem, ... right?
    Oh great, another thread that makes me spend money.

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    Good to dream it, think it through. If there's the will there is a way. Tough to bite off this much too chew. If someone comes up with a feasible plan and we can get it CHEAP, I'm in for 2 or 3 thousand $ and labor. Bound to be lots of vacant warehouse space close by for inexpensive rent to store it. Just thinking...just saying. I'd like to see what they say about the mutilation.
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    Whats the high bid? And how far are people willing to go ? Bid wise just asking?

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    I'm betting the Chinese buy it.
    If it were on the West Coast or Hawaii, I am sure they would. However, they would have to haul it an extra 3,000+ miles, and lead is relatively inexpensive so that the cost of shipping might make hauling it across the continent or down through the Panama Canal not such a good deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowfin View Post
    If it were on the West Coast or Hawaii, I am sure they would. However, they would have to haul it an extra 3,000+ miles, and lead is relatively inexpensive so that the cost of shipping might make hauling it across the continent or down through the Panama Canal not such a good deal.
    This stuff is in Florida, right? Cheaper to ship it to China via the Indian Ocean direct from a Florida port, than to move it by train to California or ship through the Canal. Distance isn't much difference, and it's on the efficient container ship the whole way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'll Make Mine View Post
    This stuff is in Florida, right? Cheaper to ship it to China via the Indian Ocean direct from a Florida port, than to move it by train to California or ship through the Canal. Distance isn't much difference, and it's on the efficient container ship the whole way.
    Portsmouth, Va. Which I think is right around the Norfolk Ship Yards.

    Since it doesn't look like this is going to happen, is someone going to keep an eye on this and let us know what it goes for? At 65 cent a pound it would not be worth it after you add in the extra cost of storage, shipping and smelting. It would be cheaper to buy at a dollar a pound.

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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
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