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[DukeInFlorida]

Good flipping luck dealing with that guy..........

Seems to me he still owes some of the swagers some answers, etc.

[algunjunkie]

Stay away from Edge Dies. He has a lot to make up for and owes a lot of people answers and products.

[DukeInFlorida]

Can you give us link??

All I see is this one:
NO eBay links, ever

Purely in the interest of fact, I see that Edge Dies is again in business listing die sets on Ebay.

I've never had any dealing or communication with him. If I was going to deal with him, I'd check all available info about him.

[rockrat]

Never got my dies or a reply to inquiries

[perotter]

Item #: 120986675165

Was sold for the buy it now.

[algunjunkie]

Never got my dies or a reply to inquiries

Same here and he has my press.

[BT Sniper]

WOW! All I can do is shake my head. That certainly isn't any way to run a business. I hope you all get things squared away. Maybe I shouldn't say anything but it troubles me greatly to see attempts like his to ride the coat tails of those of us trying to keep the swage die products and business in good standing.

In the mean time I'll continue to do my best to offer quality products and keep open comunications with all my customers, past, pressent and future.

I hate to take this moment to make a shamless plug for myself and my products but I have worked my but off for more then 3 years now to offer swage dies to the many great members here on this sight and do my best to keep all of you happy with your purchase. I spent a year before that with nearly a thousand posts on this sight regarding my progress with swaging bullets and custom die potential before I ever offered any dies for sale.

Making quality swage dies is not easy and not everyone can do it. I recomend to anyone that is considering the purchase of a set of quality and potentialy expensive swage dies to do your home work, make sure you know exactly what quality of dies you are getting and who you are buying them from. Watch out for those that come in out of the blue and offer a product without any credit to back up their claims.

This is the second failed attempt by someone coming to this great sight with big plans to offer swage dies only to leave everyone hanging. If this sort of thing is allowed to continue it will do nothing but leave a big empty hole in the wallet of those cheated as well as a black mark on the swage die comunitiy and this great sight. You guys should be enjoying making your own bullets and recovering your initial investment, not worrying about how, when or if you will get your money back. Or even worse, you may never consider buying swage dies from anyone ever again.

We have all worked way too hard to make this a great sight and there are many great vendor sponsors here with professional business ethics and quality products to offer. Lets keep it a great sight and help promote the statis of "Vendor Sponsor" to a level that can be look up to with high reguard. Do your research and buy qualtiy products from those vendors, or reputable swage die specialists that you can trust. Watch out for those that come in off the street. Anyone can be a vendor sponsor here, all it takes is a yearly donation but you guys, the customers, the great members of this sight, are the life or death of any of us vendor sponsors. This guy clearly has a different idea of what it means to be a vendor sponsor here. Don't allow this sort of behavior and poor business practice to continue. Avoid buying products from any vendor here that does not provide a professional service and quality product and back up his claims with his established credit to those us on this sight.

OK I'll get off the soap box, I'm sorry to those of you who potentially lost hard earened money and all I can say is that as BTSniper, and a vendor here, I'll do my best to continue to uphold the high standards of what I feel it means to be a vendor sponsor of this great sight and continue to offer qualtiy tools and dies.

Sorry to the original poster of this thread if you feel I lead it a stray. I'll delete and post it else where if need be.

Good Shooting and Swage On!

Brian Thurner

aka. BTSniper

[Thetraveler]

BT no worries on the leading astray thing Quick question though how far are you from having your .308 BT dies figured out? And can your .308 form dies be used for FMJ?

[BT Sniper]

boat tail reamer blue prints are at my custom reamer shop. I was quoted 2-3 more weeks.

probably be first of next year for available boat tail dies.

FMJ is nothing more then the bullet formed with the jacket backwords. I don't see the advantage vs. a small .095 or less meplat. I have not tried to form a bullet with teh jacket backwards. Anything is possible but......... why? You could make the bullet the traditional way in the same weight with a small opening in the tip, like the sierra match kings and probably get better accuracy and better formed bullets.

I'm sure my die would make teh FMJ if your hart was set on it. I suppose I'll have to do it first to make sure good results are possible. You would hav eot use commmercial jackets and then you would probably have to trim them first.

Like I always say though.... anything is possible

Brian

[I'll Make Mine]

The biggest reason for FMJ vs. a small meplat hollow point is added penetration -- an FMJ will penetrate 2-3 times as well as a hollow point, other factors equal. Commercial jackets pushes the cost up, but when you *need* an FMJ, a hollow point just won't work.

[rockrat]

Trust me, BT, that many a time I have regretted not waiting for you fine product. Especially when you offered your package deal. I was greatly tempted.

[Thetraveler]

BT, I'll make mine's answer is a good one and all true but not my reason for trying this. I have some friends that are limited by what they are allowed to use in their guns. Rest assured I am not charging for this. Besides that I am doing this for my own good as well (selfish that way) I am trying to duplicate the M80 round, but more accurate and more consistent. I have a H&K MR762A1 with a Trijicon ACOG TA648 308 sight on it. (M80 Bullet Drop Compensation scope) They use the same scope and therefore my gain it theirs as well

[BT Sniper]

Yeah, I didn't think about the penitration. I'll try it out as soon as I can and see what I can come up with.

BT

[Thetraveler]

BT any closer to having Boat tales worked out for the .308 ? and have you had a chance to look at the other thing we discussed FMJ's in the same caliber ?

[25/303]

Any luck with the FMJ's?