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    9mm and 308 bullets from scrap 223rem brass!

    Spent the weekend perfecting a couple new bullets. The dies and all the extra tools will be sent out soon to a lucky customer.









    These are the first 9mms I have made and even though I don't shoot 9mm this is how I would make them. I have used the same technique to make some .358s so not much different but the reuslting bullets look Awesome!

    I could have just sent the 9mm dies to the customer and wished him luck but that isn't me, I wanted to make sure there was a perfect bullet that could be made from scrap brass and that I detailed each step of the way for the customer. A bit of ectra time on my part but should easy the learing curve for teh customers.

    So I was able to make a perfect 105 grain XTP 9mm and a 190 grain .308 from one piece of scrap 223rem brass. The resutls where very impressive.

    I cut the neck off the 223 case then cut it again .600 further back to give me the 9mm jacket I used a Lee 93 grain 32 cal mold and got perfect 105 grain XTP bullets.

    Then with the left over 223 case that was about an inch long I anneled and reduced the case to 30 cal with gave me a jacket that was 1.2" in length and weighed 78 grains. The internial diameter of the jacket was about .270 so any core diameter under this would work well for a core, matter of fact the 100ish grain 24 or 25 cal cast bullet molds would probably even work well. I ahd some swage 1/4" diameter cores I use with my 5.7 30 cal jackets that I used.

    I must say I like what became of the scrap 223 brass. If one could get their hands on some of those 223 blanks for scrap prices that would work very well. As it is I'm sure the sized dwon 223 mill brass will make a great 30 cal jacket.

    I'll have some pics posed soon.

    Got to get some sleep. My girls first day of school is in teh morning.

    Good shooting and Swage On!

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    Funny, my first post I googled about 223rem blank brass showed a post from 09 about a 5 gallon bucket a guy was offering for sale. He said he took it to the scrap yard and got 50 cents a pound for it!!!!! Deals are out there! That would have been a lot of 9mm and 30 cal bullets for next to nothing, matter of fact one probably could have traded him a couple hundred bullets made from scrap brass for all that brass. It's been done before!
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    ok tell us more about the 9mm dies
    price and availability?

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    Now you've got me dreaming up big bullets for my 35 Whelen again, drat! And that 3 gallon bucket of .223 just languishing in the garage.
    Is this a......what day is this??

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    Brian, I brought a bucket of .223 blanks to the scrapper a month ago. $1.70 a pound. Didn't think they were good for anything else.



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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeInMaine View Post
    Brian, I brought a bucket of .223 blanks to the scrapper a month ago. $1.70 a pound. Didn't think they were good for anything else.

    I need to send my scrap brass to Duke to sell! I scrapped some brass recently and only got $1 a pound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DukeInMaine View Post
    Brian, I brought a bucket of .223 blanks to the scrapper a month ago. $1.70 a pound. Didn't think they were good for anything else.

    I would have to think real hard for a piece of brass that doesn't make a good bullet

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    My scrapper requires that I separate all nickle plated from the plain brass. and no steel whatsoever. That's how I get the $1.70.


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    C'mon BT Pistures??? I'm dying here, satisfy my curiosity well ya.
    Click to see what I'm doing and have available, this takes you to the VS (Vendor Sponsor) section of the site. Currently..25Rem,30Rem, 32Rem, 35Rem, 257Roberts, 358Win, 338Fed, 357 Herrett, 30 Herrett, 401 Winchester, 300Sav, 221 Fireball, 260Rem, 222Rem, 250 Savage, 8mm Mauser (AKA 8x57), 25-20WCF

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    Got it up and running now. My virus protection was giving me fits with photobucket. still giving me fits but pics are in post #1

    BS photobucket !!! Giving me fits!! Taken an hour just to load these pics!!!!


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    With my connection all I get are blue squares with question marks in the middle of the squares. But with my red-neck connection I get that a lot.
    Click to see what I'm doing and have available, this takes you to the VS (Vendor Sponsor) section of the site. Currently..25Rem,30Rem, 32Rem, 35Rem, 257Roberts, 358Win, 338Fed, 357 Herrett, 30 Herrett, 401 Winchester, 300Sav, 221 Fireball, 260Rem, 222Rem, 250 Savage, 8mm Mauser (AKA 8x57), 25-20WCF

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    Took me an hour to get het pics here. Time to take a break.

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    Are those 9mm bullets made with ch4d dies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vparra559 View Post
    Are those 9mm bullets made with ch4d dies?
    YEP!

    I'll be sending them off to customer hopfully this week. I added some extra internial parts to the die to get them to make these bullets but the die body is CH

    Wait! I did allter one last thing...... The ch die has a .215 meplat, it was machined incorectly so I fixed it with a new .250 meplat so it has a larger HP and slightly shorter nose then the regular ch die

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    I scrap a lotta 223 brass, the market around here is just about zero.
    But I do have a couple 30 cal's and a couple 303's.............

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    Dies are shipped to lucky customer. I added all the extra tooling as thank you for his patience.

    Good shooting and swage on!

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    What was the cost BT??
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    Kinda glad you posted those extra pictures in post #1 BT, I just found out what I have a lot of would be way to short for making 9mm's with, OH well.
    Click to see what I'm doing and have available, this takes you to the VS (Vendor Sponsor) section of the site. Currently..25Rem,30Rem, 32Rem, 35Rem, 257Roberts, 358Win, 338Fed, 357 Herrett, 30 Herrett, 401 Winchester, 300Sav, 221 Fireball, 260Rem, 222Rem, 250 Savage, 8mm Mauser (AKA 8x57), 25-20WCF

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRUMPA View Post
    Kinda glad you posted those extra pictures in post #1 BT, I just found out what I have a lot of would be way to short for making 9mm's with, OH well.
    Don't count it out yet! Anything is possible! You still got the full length neck on it....... maybe ??????????

    I still have teh box you sent me too. Don't chuck them yet but what you have is certainly a challenge. Every once in a while my brain toys with the idea of what to use your cut offs for (223 cut off to make 300ACC brass). I'll come up with somthing some day.

    Hope your 300 acc brass business is keep ing you busy. We need to get AmmoBrassTrader back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BT Sniper View Post
    We need to get AmmoBrassTrader back!BT
    Truer words were never spoken, I sure miss that site. I got 1 1/2 5gal buckets of them I hope you come up with something soon. Although a trip to the scrap yard isn't even in the planning stages, Phoenix being about my best option is a 4 1/2hr one way drive.
    Click to see what I'm doing and have available, this takes you to the VS (Vendor Sponsor) section of the site. Currently..25Rem,30Rem, 32Rem, 35Rem, 257Roberts, 358Win, 338Fed, 357 Herrett, 30 Herrett, 401 Winchester, 300Sav, 221 Fireball, 260Rem, 222Rem, 250 Savage, 8mm Mauser (AKA 8x57), 25-20WCF

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