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Bullseye as the top dog followed by Unique. I could load .38 spl completely with BE and no other powder.
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Win 231 4.3 grs with 158 RNFP
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I could to.Originally Posted by fecmech
But for heavier boolits or faster velocities, I like Unique.
I'm well into a pound of Unique since July.
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B/E.... maybe tite group... watch this space...
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Bullseye with full-wadcutters, Unique with the rest. HP38/WW231 is ok if loaded hot enough to burn cleanly.
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Bullseye is a classic, but I like Titegroup better.
Hmm...
1. Accurate Solo 1000
2. Hodgdon Universal
3. Alliant Red Dot
Mostly I like Solo 1000 since it is a single based powder. I know a lot of ppl like Bullseye or Titegroup, but when you fire up to 50 rounds in quick succession (ICORE competition) the gun gets really hot with BE and Titegroup and not so much with the Solo 1000.
Last edited by sargenv; 08-28-2012 at 10:57 AM.
Herco
Yep along with Bullseye.
2shot
Uh!
Iffin I have to vote for 3 then it's:
1: UNIQUE
2: UNIQUE
3: UNIQUE
I concur with Felix! 5.0 of Unique under a 150SWC will do anything a 38 is capable of doing and then some.
Same with Trail Boss.
I keep trying different powders, but keep coming back to Bullseye for my needs.
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I have been lots of HP38 with Lee 158 swc lately. Works pretty darn well with 45/45/10 lube.
Have shot many others but is is the current go to powder.
Last edited by btroj; 08-27-2012 at 08:58 PM. Reason: Typo
Universal deserves another vote.
Herco is another favorite. I bought a goodly amount (and a bunch of other stuff I didn't need) from a good friend who had Alzheimer's, not knowing what I'd do with it. Made for some real nice .38 spl loads.
1) WW-231
2) Alliant Unique
3) Alliant Herco
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1st clays 158 swc 3.2 grs 2nd 231 158 swc 3.5 grs
Unique, Bullseye, and W231.
If one had to go, it would be W231. The combo of Bullseye and Unique covers wadcutter to Plus P quite well. In my revolvers, W231 is a good single powder compromise, but when it gets right down to it it needs more powder to equal the wadcutter velocities of Bullseye and doesn't have quite the loading manual sanctioned "top end" of Unique.
Unique and Bullseye also have the longest history with this round, and past load data with 158's and Unique was 5.5 grains for a Plus P load. Some still advocate this as acceptable for +P loadings, but some of the more recent manuals stop at 5.0 to 5.3 grains. In my four inch Model 10 5.0 grains Unique and the Lee 158 TLSWC gets 965 fps, so that definitely qualifies, at least compared to factory load velocities, as Plus P.
About 860 fps in a two inch.
If were talking wadcutters.......WST for me, both in .38 & .32
#1 titegroup 3.4 grains over 158 lswc
#2 bullseye 3.5 grains over 158 lswc
Both of these work great for me but I can get the Titegroup cheaper so its #1 in my book.
Unique then Bullseye in that order!
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