well, I finally got my MVA sights and got them on my rifle,took it to the range to try some different loads in it at 200 yds most were M.O. chicken. a couple that get a 2nd try were 31 grains of N135 with a 210 lyman and 26.5 grains of H4198 with the same boolit. the 180 RCBS FN liked 26 grains ofRX7 and27 grains of 5744 so i'll load them up and try it again. after 100 shots today we all had fun with belly gun matches while waiting for the barrel to cool all in all a fun day at the range!