I was in the Sidney Cabela's store today, they had a Pedersoli, the price was 1999.90$, basic price on a shiloh #3 is 1800, and the hartford (if the tulip on the barrel is important to you) is 2,022. So for 200$ less or 22.10 more a Shiloh could be had for the price of a Pedersoli.....