250-310 grain roundflat .454 dia ?

[Willbird]

Ok things are calming down over here hehe, and I have been researching 45 colt ctg. and now I need a 250-310 grain plain based bullet to cast .454 or so in WW metal, I'm open as to Keith or round flat design as long as it has a decent Meplet.

Put in all the grease grooves you want at long as they are spaced .125 apart.

this would be a great casull or 45 colt bullet to load the ctg. to the potential Mr. Linbaugh says it has.


Bill

[45 2.1]

Something like this:

[Willbird]

I guess as long as we are dreaming.....

What would that bad boy weight in WW ??


Bill

[Dutch4122]

I just picked up a "PRS" 250 grn mold that came from a different custom run done by a CAS group, so I have the 250 weight covered. How about making this one a full 300 grns when cast of wheelweight?

[Willbird]

I'm all for 300-310 grains, the 45 colt has plenty of boiler room to get that weight to 1200fps in a 4-5/8's bbl, which is plumb amazing to me.

Bill

[45 2.1]

It should weigh about 275 gr. LEE already makes a really good 300+ gr. six cavity (C452-300-RF) and there are allot of NEI and custom keith 300 grainers out there too that are proved already. A nice RF at 275 would be good in both rifle and pistol.

[Willbird]

The issue with the 300 with me is that it is a gascheck bullet.

middle of the road is fine also tho.


Bill

[ddixie884]

45 2.1, That is a damn fine bullet gesign. I'm just sorry I found this site too late to get in on the 452423 group buy. You folks are on the right track.

[Dutch4122]

It should weigh about 275 gr. LEE already makes a really good 300+ gr. six cavity (C452-300-RF) and there are allot of NEI and custom keith 300 grainers out there too that are proved already. A nice RF at 275 would be good in both rifle and pistol.

Sounds good to me. Count me in if we get enough interest for a group buy; that is, if I don't go broke from all these custom runs

[Rrusse11]

45,
Good weight range,,,,, now about the GC version,,,,,,, {:o). That's what I want! Perfect in the Casull or 460S&W rifle, aircooled pushing 2000fps, a devastating hunting boolit.
Cheers,
R*2

[Willbird]

Well the gaschecked version is on the shelf at Lee already

Bill

[Rrusse11]

Well the gaschecked version is on the shelf at Lee already

Bill

Bill,
The only GC mould from Lee that I'm aware of is the C452-300-WFN or RF as they label it. Not a good design at all IMHO. Something in between the 250 and 300gr standard offerings with a smaller meplat and therefore a more radiused nose would feed better in a lever action, and it would get away from the poor shank/band configuration.
I'd like to see something like this;

Cheers,
R*2

[45 2.1]

R*2-
You ever thought of setting up to put Freechecks on those plain base bullets? It's pretty easy to do with just your RCBS or Lyman sizer setup.
Freechecks can go easily over 2000 fps and provide excellent performance and accuracy.

[Rrusse11]

R*2-
You ever thought of setting up to put Freechecks on those plain base bullets? It's pretty easy to do with just your RCBS or Lyman sizer setup.
Freechecks can go easily over 2000 fps and provide excellent performance and accuracy.

45,
Don't have a RCBS or Lyman size, I use the Lee push thru dies. I've heard of the Freechecks, doesn't Paco Kelly have something to do with 'em. From memory though the tooling was damn expensive.
Cheers,
R*2
Ps. In the "best of all possible worlds", what I'd like to see, would be a 6cav mould with half PB and the other half GC'ed.

[Willbird]

I myself just cannot get past spending 10-15 dollars per thousand to apply gaschecks which for what most people do with a pistol are not needed....more power to the guys that want them or need them, but My goal was to launch those 310's at a sedate 1200fps from a 4-5/8 blackhawk.



Bill

[Rrusse11]

I myself just cannot get past spending 10-15 dollars per thousand to apply gaschecks which for what most people do with a pistol are not needed....more power to the guys that want them or need them, but My goal was to launch those 310's at a sedate 1200fps from a 4-5/8 blackhawk.

:-)

Bill

And I want to push them past 2000fps in a rifle! Lol. This is the problem with the 'group buy', here we have the perfect example of widely varying requirements. {:o)
Cheers,
R*2

[45 2.1]

Freechecs solve both problems at almost no cost.
Bill, i have news for you, 1200 fps with a 275 to 300 gr. bullet in the 45 colt is NOT sedate.

[grumble]

"Freechecs solve both problems at almost no cost."

Are these the checks that are stamped from Al cans? Been a long time since I looked into it, but as I recall, the stamp sets were pretty expensive and very time consuming to use. Is there another method I haven't heard about?

[45 2.1]

"Freechecs solve both problems at almost no cost."

Are these the checks that are stamped from Al cans? Been a long time since I looked into it, but as I recall, the stamp sets were pretty expensive and very time consuming to use. Is there another method I haven't heard about?

What you need to do this is a RCBS or Lyman lubrisizer, your normal H&I die that needs to be altered on the top of the H die and a wad punch of the correct diameter. This will cost you about 30 to 35 dollars once you have the lubrisizer and will let you do an unlimited number of Freechecs once you have those items. It can be done for most any caliber as long as you do it on plain based bullets. I've done this for allot of years on several calibers.

[grumble]

"...your normal H&I die that needs to be altered on the top of the H die and a wad punch of the correct diameter..."

Pardon my being so dense. How is the H die modified? Does the check crimp to the base of a boolit, or does it just stick on?