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Thread: 75,000 Wadcutters in a Model 27

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    Boolit Grand Master Char-Gar's Avatar
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    Yep, push a WC bullet faster than 650-700 fps target load and it will remain stable even in a Smith and Wesson. I load a solid base wadcutter in the .357 case, over 10/2400 in my Combat Magnum. It will shot small groups as far as I can hit anything.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt_G View Post
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    Sounds like you guys are having a GRAND time!
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    I have enjoyed the original posted and most of the replies to it,great sight for learning

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    OK, I read the article and all the following posts and now I have 5 Gallons on .38 brass to sort through. I will sort out the wadcutter brass for further use.

    I had gone to my local range (DesertSportsman Rifle & Pistol Club) one late afternoon during the week and whilst dragging all my range stuff from my car to the shooting line I noticed a five gallon bucket with a sign on it. I looked closer and it read "My sight is so bad that I can no longer enjoy shooting and reloading. So I am giving away all my reloading and shooting equipment. These .38's are some of the thousands of empties that I no longer need. Enjoy them all." The plastic pail was heavy but I managed to drag it to my car and tote it home.

    I had been neglecting my beloved Smith 586 as I was shooting mostly 9 MM and 45 ACP and some rifle calibers for the last few years. Along came a Model 57 Smith and it was .41 Magnums. So I went back to the .38's. I had a Taurus Model 85 in SS with a snubbie barrel and I practiced until I could group 5 shots inside a 4 inch circle at 40 yds. Then I bought another 586 for my wife. She loved my 6" 586 so I found another for her on the interweb.

    It turned out to be a 8 3/4" tubed Smith 586 6 shooter that seemed to have been a safe queen and not fired much at all. The finish is flawless with not a bit of worn bluing anywhere. I am not sure if someone worked over the action or not but this Smith has a buttery smooth double action and a very crisp and has a light single action trigger pull. The wife does not like it because of the long barrel and the weight forwards tires out her hands too much.

    She would rather shoot the Ruger BH w/4 5/8 bbl or my beloved 586. I compromised and bought her a Charter Arms Patriot in 327 Fed Mag calibre and it is now her carry gun. She loves the light weight and low recoil. I love the terminal ballistics of those 100 gr HP rounds and the general shootability of that round. I even bought one for myself. A Lipsey's special Ruger BH in ss w 5/5" bbl and an 8 shot cylinder. It is large but very accurate and a blast to shoot.

    Now I need to hunker down and cast some HB wadcutters and wring out the long barreled 586. I expect good results.
    Pax Nobiscum Dan (Crash) Corrigan

    Currently casting, reloading and shooting: 223 Rem, 6.5x55 Sweede, 30 Carbine, 30-06 Springfield, 30-30 WCF, 303 Brit., 7.62x39, 7.92x57 Mauser, .32 Long, 32 H&R Mag, 327 Fed Mag, 380 ACP. 9x19, 38 Spcl, 357 Mag, 38-55 Win, 41 Mag, 44 Spcl., 44 Mag, 45 Colt, 45 ACP, 454 Casull, 457 RB for ROA and 50-90 Sharps. Shooting .22 LR & 12 Gauge seldom and buying ammo for same.

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    I have read some of the posts here time to time, but I'm the chorus. I got heavy into Target guns
    in early 70s. I had them all. The beating I take from guys that know me is that I got rid of Pythons
    and Diamondbacks and some of the Officiers Model Colts and kept the S&Ws. The hacking I think
    comes from the prices Colts are bringing. Sure I would like to have them back, to sell now for big
    bucks. I will still stick with my S&Ws for shooting purposes. To me the 27 is the Cadillac of 357s.
    I have never seen an article titled 75,000 Wad Cutters out of my Python. It ain't going to happen.

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    I just finished reading this article and all posts to it. It brought back good memories from long ago. I didn't realize that double cannelure brass had thinner walls for wadcutters. I started shooting Bullseye Pistol in 1964 when I turned 21, and got my pistol permit. The first handguns that I bought was a new Python 6" for $125.00, and an S&W K22 Masterpiece 6" used but not abused. As time passed, I got an S&W M52, an Alvan Dinan built M1911 45ACP W/ "DINAN" stamped on the bushing. Years later there was a brief article on him in the American Rifleman.

    I joined a Rifle and Pistol club that shot one night a week during the school year at the local Police range in the basement of the High School. Behind the shooting positions were drums of water and crackers, a leftover from the duck and cover days of the 50's.

    I used to shoot civilian class in a few of the Police Bullseye matches where Austin Behlert had a table set up and would tune the trigger pull on your revolver between matches for a small fee. Like most people my age, the eyes aren't like they used to be, and most of my mentors have long since made the journey to Heaven's range.


    My load for 38 Spcl target shooting has been Lyman 358495 over Bullseye 2.5 Gr. using mixed brass. Like others who have read this article, I am going to go through my pile of brass to sort out the double cannelures.


    I want to thank TexasFlyBoy for writing an outstanding article, and all of the other posters for sharing their knowledge to this thread.


    -Harold

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    I have handled and inspected Texas Flyboy's Model 27 and can attest from my own observation that it is all true.
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    Took the time to read Texasflyboy's post again from June 13, 2012. Nothing like shooting the same sixgun over & over. You learn it better than the back of your hand. And I think 10,000 rounds in one sixgun is a bunch. Thanks for the sharing your experience.
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    Great Thread!!!! Read the whole thing and learned a lot! Thank you!!!!!

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