BTSniper 22 cal swage die offer

[BT Sniper]

Well...... they will make bullets. It is up to the operator as to what type. Kind of vague I know. I have made a few FMJ with the 22LR jacket. I don't really recomend it since the dies work so much better making traditional bullets as they where designed to do. There is more pressure involved and more stress on your equipment attempting to make FMJ. Again I don't recomend those of you soon to have these dies to even bother with attempting FMJ bullets with these dies.

The trick is getting the base of the bullet to form up just right since the lead will be displaced down toward the base of the bullet.

So what is the appeal of FMJ bullets in 22 cal? The only logical explanation I can think of is .......... because some reg or shooting range requires it???? I really don't know? I have heard others that want penitration......... why not use a 30 cal then? If you just want to match the Millitary load with the FMJ then why not simply make the bullet the traditional way like a Sierra Match King that the millitary get away with. I have had other customers mention they wanted to "match" the performance of their "go to bullets," I think you all will find that when you start making yoru own bullets you will start to compare other bullets to yours rather then the other way around.

Not needing FMJ bullets myself I need someone to shed some light on the subject for me. If the need is truely justified and traditional bullets will not work for the shooter then I suppose I could look into attempting to perfect FMJ bullets.

??????

I look forward to coments

BT

[fredj338]

Out to 300yds, a 55gr bullet is a 55gr bullet IMO. There jsut isn't much diff in shooting a FMJ vs HP vs SP, BT or FB.

[BT Sniper]

Sent out three packages today. Should have more tomorrow and the rest of the majority on Monday. The three lucky ones where those using the Lee CC press, only becasue I had all the threaded base punches finished. I'll be finishing up the shell holder type punches tomorrow.

In the first package you guys will receive the following,

Derim die with two different size base punchs for your experimentation.
11 cavity Core mold with handels
Auto Ejection system with new ram top for those using the Lee CC

Also included is the complete set of instructions for the entire operation of these dies, swage lube for all the swaging tasks and a stick of boolit lube to be used on the contact points and hinges of the core mold.

I'll have more to post and update soon.

BT

[fredj338]

Brian, I got some lanolin from Randy with the intent of using some to make swaging lube. Is a 50/50 lanolin/castor oil about right? I assume a double boiler setup would work to combine the two & then pour up & let cool? Hopefully I will get mine before Thxgiving so I can play a bit.

[BT Sniper]

I didn't mix that much castor oil in my mix........ well maybe I did????? certainly not by weight but maybe by volume.

Let me look up my mix rate. I'll have to look it up later but I would say maybe 1- 2 oz max castor oil per lb of anhydros lanolin. I think I did 8 oz of castor oil to 5 lbs of lanolin. So do the math.... should be about right for 1-2 oz per lb.

Experiment a little to achieve the desired viscosity of the mix. I supply 1/2oz of swage lube with all my orders. That will be enough to complete nearly 1,000 pases threw a die or more.

I used a small cheap crock pot to mix mine in.

BT

[R.Ph. 380]

You boys stay up much later than I do.

[fredj338]

Thanks Brian, I'll experiment a bit. Sounds like very little oil, but will give it a go.

[algunjunkie]

A 50/50 mix will work well but will become a liquid round 90 degrees. So if you use this mix you have to keep it cool.

[BT Sniper]

Two more packages sent today.

BT

[runfiverun]

i use 2 parts lanolin to 1 part castor oil.
i weigh the lanolin and use liquid for the castor.
it's not so sticky and smears better for me that way.
i just melt the lanolin and pour in the castor oil.
microwave works fine, i make it in a glass jar with screw on lid for storage.
and scoop some out into a cut off plastic thingy for use.

[BT Sniper]

That sounds pretty good too!

BT

[Gunto]

BT, I have PM`d to you, but still have no answer!
Have a nice day!
Guntis

[BT Sniper]

I've been very busy trying to get orders out the door before the Thanks Giving holiday. I get quite a few pms and emails and try my best to keep up. I'll get to all unanswered PMs as soon as I can.

Thanks for your patience.

BT

[gvanzeggelaar]

I loaded some 60 grainers up over some H335 and shot a 10 shot group that was just over an inch.

These were not the best projectiles I made and I did no load development up to this point.

I think shooting MOA or less is quite achievable with these dies.

[BT Sniper]

10 shot group at an inch at 100! Great start! With 22lr brass jackets. I'm sure you will be able to cut that size down by half after a bit of load development and fine tune your bullet production a bit. What is your typical groups from commerical 60 grain bullets out of that same gun and load? I always try to shoot some factory bullets at the same time as I am testing the accuracy of my custom bullets as a control.

Thanks for the report. I sent you a couple PMs.

What where the specs? Gun? Twist rate? Wind? Caliber? pics?

Good shooting swage on!

BT

[starbits]

WooHOO!! Package arrived today with core mold and handles, derim die, and auto ejection system. Everything looks great, Thanks Brian

Starbits

[BT Sniper]

Wow! That was quick. I just sent it on Thursday. Got to love USPS flat rate priority shipping.

Your welcome.

I just finished up all the shell holder base punches and will have everyone's package sent on monday for this first portion of the complete 22 cal package.

I made some boolit lube popsicles and included them in the core mold box. Looks like one of those orange foam ear plugs on a stick. With the mold hot just touch it to the parts of the mold that may rub against each other, like the allignment pins, top spure plate at the bolt, handle bolt, etc. I think the Lee instructions mention this as well. The "lube on a stick" I provided you guys with should be enough for nearly a years worth of casting, a little goes a long ways. Don't get any in the core cavities and be sure to keep those cavities free from scratches or dings.

Be sure to read all instructions before using any of the tools I have sent you guys. The instructiosn are in the box in a flat rate envalope.

BT

[supe47]

Patiently twiddlin' my thumbs.
Supe

[BT Sniper]

Sent yours yesterday. Should be there Monday

BT

[supe47]

Woo Hoo. (BIG SMILE) Many thanks, Supe.