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Thread: MiHec 2 cavity Brass Hollow Base 41 Long Colt mold

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    I was reading in an old magazine tonight that had a chart of dates of introduction for various chamberings in the Colt SAA. The .41 came in 1885, later than I would have thought what with the heeled bullet it originally had. Also in the chart was the .38-40 with an 1884 introduction date. I am going to guess Colt's only reason for making the .41 round as they did was just to keep from making another barrel inside diameter. Anyone agree or disagree?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddixie884 View Post
    Put me down for 1 mold, complete with all options. I hope this gets you guys over the top..........
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    16 molds for sure, maybe 18 now.

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    Both wikipedia and chuckhawks said it was introduced in 1877.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.41_Long_Colt

    http://www.chuckhawks.com/41_LC.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    put me down for a 2 cavity.
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    What gun are you guys getting this for? I have a colt that my great grandpa used when he worked for the rail road. it had a 2.5 or 3" barrel.

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    I have a 1st generation SAA and a M1889 colt DA.
    That family heirloom of yours is worth more than it's weight in gold many times over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Both wikipedia and chuckhawks said it was introduced in 1877.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.41_Long_Colt

    http://www.chuckhawks.com/41_LC.htm
    Well my source is a Skeeter Skelton article with the chart used by permission from a Colt collector who had published it in a book. Neither the author or the book were familiar to me, but I don't collect Colts. Are two internet sites a better source? Does it matter? Two years later makes the choice of design of the .41 even more archaic. The Lightning and Thunderer were the 1877 design. Maybe that is where the confusion lies. Maybe they chambered the .41 in the Peacemaker first?

    What do you think of the assertion I made for the reason for using the heeled bullet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piedmont View Post
    What do you think of the assertion I made for the reason for using the heeled bullet?
    From what I have gathered, the 41 Long Colt started with the 41 Rimfire. It had a heel-base bullet. Later, it was stretched to a 41 Long Rimfire, also with a heel-base bullet. The 41 Short Colt centerfire was based on that one. Later, it was stretched again to the 41 Long Colt centerfire.

    Colt had a lot of heel-base bullet cartridges back then. The .32, .38, .41, and .44 Colt cartridges. They all were originally meant to replace the same size rimfire cartridges. I believe all of them had both short and long versions of the cartridge, but I have not checked the .44 Colt to make sure. The short version was the direct replacement for the rimfire version. Gunsmiths could convert older rimfire rifles and handguns to centerfire and allow reloading with the Colt heel-base cartridges.

    I once had a Marlin .32 rimfire and .32 Colt in the same gun. It could shoot both by changing the firing pin location. Note that the .32 Colt is NOT the same as the .32 S&W. The .32 S&W is larger in diameter and could not shoot both the rimfire and the centerfire from the same gun - the rimfire case would split. If you try to find .32 Colt components, it is much harder than finding .41 Long Colt components (speaking from experience).

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    18 molds now....

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    Having looked back over my little 41 Colt records I am more happy this will be about a 200 grainer.
    It would be an easy task to drill the nose to reduce weight. But Why ? 41 Colts just will not make much horsepower at least in my 1907 vintage Double Action. A heavy 40-1 will do a far better job on the intended target. Can almost smell the 3F cooking the olive oil and beeswax now.
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    I would like one mould.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piedmont View Post
    I was reading in an old magazine tonight that had a chart of dates of introduction for various chamberings in the Colt SAA. The .41 came in 1885, later than I would have thought what with the heeled bullet it originally had. Also in the chart was the .38-40 with an 1884 introduction date. I am going to guess Colt's only reason for making the .41 round as they did was just to keep from making another barrel inside diameter. Anyone agree or disagree?
    My understanding is that the first .41 LC guns had a slightly larger bore than the 38-40, but at some point later Colt reduced the bore to the same size as 38-40 for the the reasons you stated. One of my buddies has an early Colt Thunderer (pre 1880)with an excellent condition barrel that slugs out at .408". He uses .409"/.386" heeled boolits. My M1889 .41LC slugs .401".
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    I would like one mold (2 cavity).
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    Good morning and WELCOME to vtnam68. Good to have you with us and a 41 Colt shooter to boot..
    Well I guess you could be looking to pop these from a 38WCF also.. I am sure going to give that a try.
    Only way this mold could be better is to have a .405 nose. I bet-cha having a fat nose like that there would be no wooble at all as it moved forward to the cone on the barrel. Would center far more consitent every shot. Already I am thinking I will have to modify one of those cavities.
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    Hi Mike. Old West Moulds makes 41LC double cavity flat base heeled molds. Google "Old West Molds" or email allisonmonument@aol.com
    Last edited by jethunter; 04-22-2013 at 06:35 AM.

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    I would like one too! The 2 cavity - blackwaterdivesys at yahoo dot ca

    Thanks!!!

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    I'm in for one of the two cavity versions.

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    For a while this GB looked like it was going to fizzle out and die but it's turned the corner now.
    22 molds and counting!
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