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    Sweet looking rigs, I love that TC Norwegian Camo. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSASSIN View Post
    N.E. Ok....

    I do not sell threaded stubs or thread them for others. To big of a liability....

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    Howdy! its a real big pain in the butt ski to do a trigger job on a H & R is it not?? I know you don't do them I was just wondering?? Thanks Tom GD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Good Cheer View Post
    What's the price tag on converting a H&R to .41 Mag?
    Guess it's just not to be. Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSASSIN View Post
    Built around your gun and using your barrel as a stub, a 41 Rem. Mag. is $500 return shipped. This is for a complete rebuild....

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    That is not bad at all considering the what's involved.

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    I love them all. What is your source for the laminate. Nice colors.
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    Durn, guess I gotta try it myself. Want a heavier barreled 500 S&W and maybe a 300 Blackout 24" bbl'd gun.

    Rockrat, just "google" David White. A fine gunsmith. I believe he started the "stub barrel" idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red river rick View Post
    dean:

    you are correct, and i do agree.......................but we (tool & die makers) are not all dead!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rico1950 View Post
    just "google" David White. A fine gunsmith. I believe he started the "stub barrel" idea.
    Nope. Not a new practice at all.

    See Mr.Single Shot's Gunsmithing Idea Book by Frank de Haas (c)1983. I also think it's covered in the 1969 edition of the NRA Gunsmithing Guide.

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    You are correct, and I do agree.......................but we (Tool & Die Makers) are not all DEAD!
    +1

    I dont know everything, but I have been tinkering around with guns since I was a kid. When I was 13 years old, my dad was shocked to come home and find his Browning A-5 completly disassembled on the coffee table. I was sitting there scrubbing on one of the bolt pieces with a toothbrush. Dad asked me what I was doing? I told him that I thought his gun needed cleaning and decided to do it for him. I also informed him that I had found a short barrel in the gun closet for the A-5 and I would put it on for him if he would like. The blessed man told me to make sure to do the job right, and told me to go ahead and swap barrels while I was at it. (In retrospect, I dont understand why my dad didn't take a belt to me and end my aspirations of being a gunsmith right there! I know I would have!) anyway, I remember finishing putting the shotgun back together with the short barrel and taking it to the back of the house to show my dad. He worked the action a few times and praised me for a job well done. (he also told me that none of his other guns needed my services, and that I should ask him before getting into them in the future)
    5 years later, I decided to be a machinist for a living. I never quit tinkering with firearms though. Fast forward to the present day, and I have 15 years experience as a machinist with everything from a file and a coal forge, to a state of the art CNC EDM machine that cut metal with electricity. I also ran the heat treat department at my last job and have better than average experience with metal types and the hardness properties that they are capable of. There is hardly an action made this century that I have not been inside of. I will be getting my gunsmithing FFL in a few weeks (God willing) and I have a complete machine shop set up at home.

    I say all of that to respond to a few of the posts in this thread.
    First, Darn good work there ASSASSIN!
    Second, there are a few of us that have devoted our lives to being old-time quality machinists/ tool makers and have listened and applied all of the knowledge that the previous generations could impart.
    Third, I feel exceptionally qualified to tell you that gunsmithing is a totally different discipline than tool and die making. The best machinist in the world still makes shortcuts that cannot be made when doing gunsmithing. It bugs me that some try to protect their income by saying that there is something magic about gunsmithing, and usually those guys know just enough about the trade to get by, but there is a darn good reason that some dont go throwing information to the masses like confetti. The thing about gunsmithing is that it must be done right! If the job needs a file, you use a file. If the job needs a lathe, you use a lathe. Lots of folks figure "oh I can do that in my garage no problem! I got a hand drill, a dremel tool and a file, what else do I need?) Well, its true that you might be able to do a couple specific operations with those tools, but one slip and you endanger yourself, and anyone you pawn the gun off on in the future. We have to clean up after folks who thought they could do it in their garage all the time, and what I have seen would scare you. An ameture backyard gunsmith is a specialist at turning a perfectly good firearm into a pipe bomb. Every now and then someone is mechanically inclined enough to do it right, and disciplined enough to realize when they don't have the tools for the job and take it to someone who does.
    I have been doing both gunsmithing and machine-shop for the last 15 years, spent every dime I made on it too, and I still consider myself only halfway there (if that).
    Not only that, but there is nothing new under the sun. All of the stuff that is done has been done before and has been published for our reading pleasure by fellas who spent their whole lives gathering information and then wrote it down in a book for us to glean from. (at least all of the normal stuff you are likely to run into).
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    Are any of these SBR's or is it an illusion because the stub blends in with the receiver?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rico1950 View Post
    Durn, guess I gotta try it myself. Want a heavier barreled 500 S&W and maybe a 300 Blackout 24" bbl'd gun.

    Rockrat, just "google" David White. A fine gunsmith. I believe he started the "stub barrel" idea.
    I do not know when " barrel stub " thecnique started, but I own one action that was commercially rebarreled during the 30' by Cooey in Canada and sold by Eaton's Dept. stores. The action is a Carcano 6.5x52 and at the time since no ammo available it was rebarrel with 6.5x54 Mannelicher Schoenouer barrels treaded in to the stub of the original barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSASSIN View Post
    Here are a couple of pictures of barrel stubbed rifles I've built and I hope you like at least one of them...
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    Sir I enjoy very much looking at your work.... Tks for sharing
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    I am drooling while I am looking at the pictures your rifles.....!!! Tks.

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    Not trying to hijack this thread, but here is an inline muzzle loader I built sometime ago from an old h&R1900 12 gauge. This one was done on a shoe string budget.
    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=124136
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    Assasin, you ever done one of these in a .300 BLK? I can't help thinking about one with an integral suppressor on a form 4 would be awesome!

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    Assasin, I'll send you a pm. I'd be interested in a rifle well balanced for shooting standing, offhand, with hooded bead and adjustable rear.

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    Wow,
    Assassin, simply awesome!

    That is something I would like to do some day in the near future, I will be looking you up!

    A super accurate shorty big bore single shot, that would be sweet.

    Is there a way to do iron sights with maybe a skinner peep sight and also some way to QD a scope?

    Thanks for sharin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASSASSIN View Post
    Good Cheer,

    this is basically what your 41 Rem Mag would look like,,,,








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    Man oh man that is one great looking functional rifle. Had to look through the thread again, I like them all but this one, and the black and stainless Thompson, with the short barrel, those two especially!

    I will be calling you someday soon

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    Very nice work, thanks for taking the time to post them. I'm curious, have you ever built one of your rifles in the .357 Max with perhaps a barrel that is not as heavy and a bit longer to be used as a hunting rifle? OOPS, spoke too soon I went to your forum page and see you do. Thanks.
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