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Thread: Breachin rounds

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    you could use the same wads they use for steel, or other hardened loads a shotcup with no open pedals. if you leak a tiny bit of sand your toast tho when you shoot. try the tiniest shot you can find with wax bonding techniques that would do great

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    " You don't want to use something that is going to glue the column to the hull. You can exceed maximum pressures in a shotgun just by adjusting your crimp too deep on an otherwise perfectly safe load so i would imagine that a wad column glued to the inside of the hull would raise pressures significantly"

    That is a very real concern! I didn't explain my idea very well. I was thinking of casting the poly-resin in a wad with shot in a different hull (maybe spray it down with Pam or something so the resin won't stick), let it harden, and then remove it, verify the weight, and THEN place it over a powder charge.

    I was thinking it should work something along the line of the Lee slugs--basically just a slug you fire from a shotcup.

    But thanks for that important safety note. If you hard-glue the wad to the hull, or gunk up the cushion section, you could be asking for some catastrophic pressure.

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    wax will not glue the wad to the shell

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    I have shot a fair number of wax slugs through my guns, i believe they would work great as a breeching round and i would hate to see what they might do to a live target. A standard trap load in wax will punch through 1/2" plywood at 75 yards in our tests, i have no doubts as to what it would do to a door lock or hinges. When my oldest brother was trained in the USAF he told me they used plain old unmodified no 8 shot to take any door off at the hinges or blow the strike plate out, he says they never had an issue with a shooter being harmed, obviously safety glasses would be a good idea, and over penatration would likely not be an issue with birdshot.
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    Go to the local machineshop and get some iron filings/shawings fron the big saw.
    Pop the top on some 7/8oz trap loads and reseal after swapping contents.

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    Compressed lead was used for breaching rounds. Now alot of them are compressed Copper or copper Tin powder. Corbin sells the powder. It isn't Toxic. I would just compress some #12 or lead dust mixed with graphite powder in a cylinder, and use that. Defintely wear Eye protection, and probably Gloves if you shoot the into a Door.
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    I don't know what was in the ones we used, but it I were trying to handload an equivalent I would just use #12 shot and be done with it. LE uses manufactured breaching rounds because of liability, not because they do a better job than a shotshell.
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    same OO buck im going to be using on the other side!

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    http://www.gunloads.com/castboolits/...d.php?t=110109

    I had the same idea and built some just for kicks. I used the dusty slag from smelting wheel weights and melted wax from a candle into when it was 1/3 full, 2/3 full, and then when it was all the way full. I used a light charge of Red Dot. It was fun, and I even loaded a couple of shells with small sprues and wax and got some interesting results. When I was melting wax into the shot cup I wrapped masking tape around the wad to keep the wax from running out and then removed it after it had cooled. I shot all of the rounds I had loaded since I really had no use for them other than knowing that it could be done. Also, after I had loaded some I asked several ex-military guys what they used to breach doors in Iraq and they all said 00 Buck out of a Mossberg 500.
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