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    Exactamundo!

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    I have noticed that the torque, not the recoil, is more of an issue to me. These loads try to wrench the gun out of your hands. I'm sure it affects accuracy too.

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    Steve, yes indeed but things would get better if the barrel gradually started with shallower rifling and as the sabot moves 3 inch it gets deeper rifling then it would help and the effect of torque would be less noticeable.

    I also find the rifling very shallow:



    We need something in between.


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    Last edited by SuperBlazingSabots; 05-20-2018 at 02:38 PM.

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    A treat for Roundball lovers

    Talking about RB in wad and the difference between a $100 mold and a $18 mold:

    What a shame to Lyman charging 5 times the price and selling substandard mold.
    Lee is teaching them the right way to make molds at 1/5 the price.

    This is why we need the nitro cards to protect the wads









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    Last edited by SuperBlazingSabots; 06-16-2018 at 11:34 AM.

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    Love those pics. Yes. Maybe a gain twist?

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    Yes you are right yet no barrel maker caters to us with Gain Twist ( progressive rifling ) and none of the Nitro Express gun makers are offering it to help us. We are being forced to use sub standard components of shotshell for our Nitro Express loads.

    One day things will change, perhaps you will bring about the change, remember I told you quite some time back " You might be up to something big "

    I tried to bring about the important changes and was up to something but failed the last minute ! !

    The shooters who supported me right here are all disappeared, where but the post keeps getting the clicks some 16000 to 17000 clicks ever since I came back here after being banned ! !

    Steve you are welcome to take this post but keep bringing newer ideas.

    Best regards,
    Ajay Madan
    Steve I'll see you back in my Nitro Express forum, my forum.

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    Ajay, do you have a clean photo of a slug overriding the roll crimp? Haven't had it happen yet, but would love to see one for forensic reasons.

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    No Steve I don't because when roll crimping the Lyman 525 slug in wad the roll part of the hull was mangling the wad at launch and causing the slug to no longer be centered while travelling through the barrel. My common sense refused to roll crimp and I choose to fold crimp. **--** To me I would roll crimp a full bore slug and that too would need to be designed to have shoulders specially meant to open the roll crimp smoothly.


    I'm proud to be a Elite Musketeer, among other Elite Musketeer's here.
    " One for all & All for one "

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    Last edited by SuperBlazingSabots; 05-21-2018 at 11:07 AM.

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    12 ga Lyman 525 slug in wad, July 11th test:

    We are not loading just shot shells, rather Nitro Express loads that require custom tailoring to suite your gun for accuracy.

    The very best advise I can give you is, if you are starting to load Slugs and want to play it safe then only use Fiocchi
    hulls for safety, they have proved to be consistent in quality enough to show pressure sign's early on time after time
    with my tests, so please play it safe

    As promised the results from July 11 th tests with Lyman 525 slug in wad.
    12-2 3/4 Fed hull Fed. 209A

    Tests with A. Steel powder and a Savage F 212 gun with a 22 inch barrel:

    1. 12-3” Fiocchi BrownFed. 209A 45gr A.Steel, 1 inch paper disk, Lyman 525 in Fed 12S-3 wad with .125 nitro card,
    8 point fold tight opening, hull bulged bad 1447 fps

    2. 12-3” Fiocchi BrownFed. 209A 46gr A.Steel, 1 inch paper disk, Lyman 525 in Fed 12S-3 wad with .125 nitro card,
    8 point fold crimp good, 1484 fps

    3. 12-3” Fiocchi BrownFed. 209A 46.5gr A.Steel, 1 inch paper disk, Lyman 525 in AA12F114 wad with .125 nitro card,
    8 point fold crimp tight, trying to open hull bulged 1378 fps

    4. 12-3” Fiocchi BrownFed. 209A 47gr A.Steel, 1 inch paper disk, Lyman 525 in AA12F114 wad with .125 nitro card,
    8 point fold crimp tight, trying to open,1415 fps

    5. 12-3” Fiocchi BrownFed. 209A 47.5gr A.Steel, 1 inch paper disk, Lyman 525 in Fed.12C-1 wad with .125 nitro card,
    8 point fold crimp good,1516 fps

    6. 12-3” Fiocchi BrownFed. 209A 47.5gr A.Steel, 1 inch paper disk, Lyman 525 in Commander wad with .125 nitro card,
    8 point fold very good, 1448 fps

    7. 12-3” Fiocchi BrownFed. 209A 48gr A.Steel, 1 inch paper disk, Lyman 525 in Commander wad with .125 nitro card,
    8 point fold very good! ! ! 1462 fps

    8. 12-3” Fiocchi BrownFed. 209A 48.5gr A.Steel, 1 inch paper disk, Lyman 525 in Commander wad with .125 nitro card,
    8 point fold very good to Perfect! ! ! 1479 fps
    A lot more testing is needed before they start to shine!




    Time tested Lyman 525 loads from the past, mind you use them at your own discretion only:

    **--**I just modified the above load data with pictures to help the smooth bore shooters know which wad will fit their barrel better for accuracy and safety.
    With God's Grace and Glory this Commander wad made for us Nitro Express shooters unknowingly, thank God for it ! !

    See which fits better for your needs


    **--**
    I'm proud to be a Elite Musketeer, among other Elite Musketeer's here.
    " One for all & All for one "
    The Nitro Express Shooters.
    **--** Sure like to see how many of you are proud members here and will display these words on their own post
    **--**

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    PS: The above information is only for my Elite Musketeer Group only so I quietly keep adding more and more to the same post loading it with pure 24 carat Gold, I'm not looking to increase my post count just add more helpful information ! !
    You all know who all supported me, now I'm supporting you.
    Last edited by SuperBlazingSabots; 06-16-2018 at 11:30 AM.

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    Good Morning, I have been working on the powder identification and could use your help and feed back as to how would you describe these powders, in your way of thinking ? ?


    **--** If one of you could take the 20 gauge Lyman slug in wad and put it in every 20 ga wad available and measure the slug and wad like this:



    One of the bullet we had chosen for our Blazing Sabot was marked as 325 gr but actually was 340 grains similar to this Lymen 20 ga slug in wad and luckily the loading data will adopt to this Lyman slug in wad too ! !

    **--** Some of us know Pressure is our friend. Higher pressures lead to more consistent, cleaner burning therefore I choose to start using Magnum primers early on in our research and switched to Fold crimp as oppose to roll crimping which is known to produce lower pressures.


    We had this 340 gr loads going above 1800 fps with 4756 and Blue Dot loads and the Blue Dot load had the primer flatt from pressure and the 4756 load showed no pressure sign.
    The next best was Universal with no pressure signs at all just like 4756 powder and thus could further test to push the loading envelope, perhaps 1900 fps ! !
    Next best powder was A. Steel and showed no pressure and could be further developed for even faster loads.




    Funny the Load Data skipped the powder charge as they want $ $ $ and we share far far better faster data among our friends ! !
    **-**When you start to cook your own can you imagine all the creative juices that start to flow and come to mind, feels great and the more you do the better you get.
    ** Sure would appreciate that, it's not going to be for me personally but for you all to help out !
    All my research and testing was specially done to help my fellow shooters, only ! !

    **--** My opinions are my own. They carry no 'special' value (except to me of course)

    Thanks.
    Ajay Madan
    Super Blazing Sabots
    Last edited by SuperBlazingSabots; 06-16-2018 at 11:31 AM.

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    The 20 gauge .575 RB load needs to set up like this:

    Watch the picture carefully and follow.

    We can't afford to make mistakes.

    The components that we are using are made for shotshell and not specially made for our " Nitro Express Heavy loads "
    By reinforcing the wads with nitro cards we are adopting them for heavier loads and protecting them from failures.
    There is no rocket science here, just good old common sense along with your own sixth sense ! !
    Pay attention to your own sixth sense, it will guide you ! !

    Please note I find the 20 ga hulls not so sturdy, mostly Ok.
    **--** Here 1/2 gr more powder turned the 20 ga hot load into a cut shell.

    I found them at times bulging at the last crimping stage and had to use a plastic ring from " Home Depot " to help support the hull at the last stage.

    I follow common sense rules to help out when I did get a bulge:



    **--** Never ever deviate from the load and no matter how much you trust a friend always drop the charge by three grains then load one shell at a time and keep coming up the charge by .5 grains, now shoot them in that order one at a time and carefully watch for pressure or extraction signs before you proceed to the next shell with higher up charge.
    This you do for your own safety and because you love your family ! !
    Learn to read pressure signs:

    **--**The big Ammo manufacturers pushing the loading envelope beyond the safety limits, they don't care about your safety ! !



    When developing newer loads always use newer Fiocchi hull as they tend to show pressure signs early on for safety and once your load is developed switch over to newer Federal hull for hunting for a smoother action when the golden moment comes for that trophy you don't want the gun to mail function ! !

    Pressure is our friend. Higher pressures lead to more consistent, cleaner burning loads.
    ** Roll crimping produces lower pressures due to less resistance from the roll crimp.



    Wise Tip's for Nito Express Slug loader's, Old is still Gold ! !

    " Old is Gold " the old theory still goes, accuracy from a shotgun slug is a function of two things

    1. A good gas seal.

    2. Centering the slug in the bore with a snug fit through out the barrel.

    Achieve those two and you can shoot as well as many big game heavy rifles.

    Since efficiency and accuracy is our prime goal, we need all components to Rhyme with one another and work together hand in hands.

    Saboted Slugs are more aerodynamic, because they are encased in a bore-filling, fall-away plastic sleeve ( the Sabot ) which allows the shotgun to shoot a much more efficient projectile.

    Let's make the right choices:

    1. Choose your components wisely to custom tailor your loads for efficiency!

    2. We need good quality straight walled hulls that are made strong enough to SAAMI
    specification's but will show pressure sign's after a certain pressure level is reached for safety!

    3. Very important to know that certain powders require A Magnum Primer like Alliant Steel for
    example, needs a Fed.209A or CCI.209M!
    Stick with only top name brand primer's that are made to SAAMI specification's like Fed. 209,
    CCI 209, Win. 209 and Fio.616 only for regular primer's for our slug / sabot loads.

    4. Very important, your OP wad must form a good barrier between the powder gases and the
    rest of your wad column, therefore your wad under ideal situation should have longer skirts
    and if your gun has longer forcing cone all the more important for sealing powder gases!

    There goes your load efficiency down the drain:

    5. Let's give it some solid support, add a stronger darker nitro card to transmit the driving forces
    evenly, when ever possible try to incorporate a .250" nitro card in between.

    6. When ever possible try adding a good Felt wad of 1/4, 3/8 or 1/2 inch to help reduce the felt recoil!
    I really love the darker felt fiber wads as they are made well and perform great, but are almost 2 1/2 to 3 time more costlier when compared to the cheaper felt wads from Circle Fly on the right!

    7. Top your Felt wad with a stronger darker nitro card, is like giving it a solid foundation to
    transmit the driving forces evenly and help support the Sabot from below to keep plasma gas
    blow-by from melting the Sabots!

    8. Your Sabots with the proper bullet should be a real tight fit in your rifled barrel and a properly
    designed sabot should not tag along for a free ride piggy back, instead should release the bullet
    immediately and drop off in the first 10 to 25 yard line and not any further!

    **When it comes to smooth bore then your slug in wad needs to be a snug fit enough to require
    6 to 8 lbs pressure to push it through with a wooden dowel and if any more then your pressure's are sure to be high!

    Watch out for your safety comes first!

    9. It is very important that you seat the slug all the way home, use 50 to 60 lbs wad pressure to ensure that.

    10. Try using a harder alloys for casting your slugs for use in Sabots, this way you reduce any chances of distortion at setback when fired allowing the slug to maintain its shape!

    11. A fold crimp will further enhance ignition as the pressures are known to be much higher with fold crimp, you also need a bit less powder this way!

    12. A clean cut rifling will engage the Slug / Sabot far better and impart the required spin for stability in flight for a greater gyroscopic stability that are harder to knock of course, and thus produce massive centrifugal force to help release the bullet instantly from the sabot.

    13. Under ideal hunting situation all you fire is one shot, in some cases may be two the most.
    Does it not make sense to do all your slug testing from a cold barrel and fire two shots to see how well your gun holds the accuracy under ideal hunting situation!
    When testing Slugs or Sabots, three shot group is all you need and pause between shots to let the barrel cool down a bit!

    14. Most loads are more accurate when you tone them down by 2 to 3 gr below Max, and the recoil is easy to digest and won't kick like a mule, that will help you shoot better!

    15. Most Autoloaders and Pump shotguns shoot far better if you tighten the barrel lug all the way then back-off one notch to relieve excess pressure on the barrel. Follow this procedure every time you venture out for a hunt ! !

    16. Polishing your guns forcing cones will definitely help as it has tool marks that the manufacturers failed to polish, its a simple do it yourself project ! !
    Put it in a hand drill and polish it with the feel, let your 6th sense help you here ! !

    17. Who in his right mind fires five consecutive shots while hunting?
    When testing your load do a three shot groups and that too space them apart by 15 to 20 seconds apart, lets be reasonable ! !

    **--** I hit a Road Block on the picture count so proceed to the next post for pictures on how to polish your forcing cones for pennies ! !

    Have the knowledge and exposure to " push the loading envelope" to the Max!

    Knowledge not shared, is knowledge lost!

    **--** My opinions are my own. They carry no 'special' value (except to me of course)
    Above all I really enjoyed writing this post!

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    PS: The above information is only for my Elite Musketeer Group only so I quietly keep adding more and more to the same post loading it with pure 24 carat Gold,
    I'm not looking to increase my post count, just add more helpful information to help my fellow Brother put meat on the table for pennies a Pop ! !
    **--** You all know who all supported me now its payback time, I'm supporting you.
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    I just hit a road block with the picture count, here I go with the images meant for the post above !

    16. Polishing your guns forcing cones will definitely help as it has tool marks that the manufacturers failed to polish, its a simple do it yourself project ! !





    Put it in a hand drill and polish it with the feel, let your 6th sense help you here ! !
    By the way that foam came inside the shirts I bought, I put it to good use ! !

    Have the knowledge and exposure to " push the loading envelope" to the Max!

    Knowledge not shared, is knowledge lost!

    **--** My opinions are my own. They carry no 'special' value (except to me of course)
    Above all I really enjoyed writing this post!

    Ajay Madan
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    http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...f=118&t=196961
    http://www.deeranddeerhunting.com/fo...p?f=43&t=39246
    http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/slug-gu...old-is-gold-!

    PS: The above information is only for my Elite Musketeer Group only so I quietly keep adding more and more to the same post loading it with pure 24 carat Gold,
    I'm not looking to increase my post count, just add more helpful information to help my fellow Brother put meat on the table for pennies a Pop ! !
    **--** You all know who all supported me now its payback time, I'm supporting you.
    Last edited by SuperBlazingSabots; 06-16-2018 at 11:26 AM.

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    All my friends looking to shoot those Heavy 20 gauge Nitro Express loads can buy Beartooth bullets cast .622 bullets for the
    .600 Nitro Express. In packs or individually. They weigh 1040 gr.
    My friend Steve wanted me to pass it along to you all, he is testing yet another powder for those heavy 20 ga loads and will gladly come and share his findings here once he has a good accurate load.

    While working for J.P. Sauer & Sons in Eckernforde , Germany I met with a great American Wildcatter Mr Roy Weatherby and got a chance to learn his way of thinking " Lighter, faster bullet can do far more damage than a heavier slower bullet "
    I'm from his camp and follow the same in my way of thinking " Lighter, faster Bullet "
    If you can find the yearly magazine from Weatherby you will learn a lot not only the man behind the Weatherby Arms but his way of thinking ! !

    We at Sauer were manufacturing Weatherby Mark V along with Shot guns for Weatherby.
    Single action and double action revolvers for Howes.
    The year 1970.

    Best regards,
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    That powder that I've been using is reloader 17
    85.0 gr has netted me 1300 feet per second with my 756 grain bullet in a plastic sabot. My best groups to date are 6-7"@100
    Using too little of the powder will cause unburnt powder to remain in the shell and Barrel. I started at around 60 grains and it was a mess.
    Pressures do not seem to be a problem but it does require a thick-walled muzzle. thin barrel shotguns may have problems as this powder will burn all the way to the muzzle and still be producing pressure at the muzzle.
    Working on some new techniques to tighten groups.....
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    Thanks Ajay for passing along that word about the bullets. Thinking about putting in an order myself...

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    Seeing as hard dark nitro cards in 20&28 ga are impossible to find in the US, you can cut them from 12 ga ones, or my personal way is just soaking them in melted paraffin for a few seconds.
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    These are 28's glued to 20's for my latest attempts....hard as plastic!

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    The other load I've been working on in 20 ga is 45.0gr H4227 and my saboted 720gr bullet (commercial & predates the home cast version)@1268 fps
    Also have used magtech brass shells and 49.0 gr H4227 with newer 756gr bullet. Similar velocity and groups. Problem here is accuracy hasn't been consistent. Sometimes groups open to 6" or so. New wads on the way....

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    Hello Steve, we face a tough challenge having forced to use sub standard shotshell components for our Heavy Nitro Express needs where we try our level best to help strengthen the components through Nitro cards to be able to withstand our higher pressures they were not meant for ! !
    I'm grateful to Circle Fly for providing cheaper nitro cards and BPI for those Darker stronger nitro cards at a much higher price but good ! !

    I simply love it when Arms manufacturers give us the choice to inter change just the barrels for yet another calibre like Rossi did, TC Contender did.
    **--** I see Mossberg making Over & under with two sets of barrels for 12 and 20 ga, if only they would offer them with rifled barrels. Bravo ! !
    Tough, Versatile, and Budget-Friendly, Midland’s Backpack Shotgun Might be Your Best Hiking Companion for $149 along with interchangeable barrels for centerfire. https://www.gunsamerica.com/…/midlan...review/…

    **--** Did any of you get to buy one of these babies ? ?
    Lanber Unifrance 20 ga rifled barrel shotgun O/U
    I wish I had picked one up for my load testing also can any one who bought it tell me the OD at the muzzle of 12 ga and 20 ga ? ?
    Thank you.

    Have the knowledge and exposure to " push the loading envelope" to the Max!

    Knowledge not shared, is knowledge lost!

    **--** My opinions are my own. They carry no 'special' value (except to me of course)
    Above all I really enjoyed writing this post!

    Ajay Madan
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    http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...f=118&t=196961
    http://www.deeranddeerhunting.com/fo...p?f=43&t=39246
    http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/slug-gu...old-is-gold-!

    PS: The above information is only for my Elite Musketeer Group only so I quietly keep adding more and more to the same post loading it with pure 24 carat Gold,
    I'm not looking to increase my post count, just add more helpful information to help my fellow Brother put meat on the table for pennies a Pop ! !
    **--** You all know who all supported me now its payback time, I'm supporting you.
    Last edited by SuperBlazingSabots; 06-21-2018 at 11:44 AM.

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    A very useful upgrade for $265 from Tarhunt for Savage 220 in SS worth considering ! !
    I really wish they had the Upgrade II for that price with 23 inch overall length, 1-24″ twist rate, (SS heavy wall barrel), matte finished, Helical Fluted and a Muzzle Brake as standard SS barrel instead of $450 for all our High Power Elite Nitro Express shooters.
    Can we make a deal with them would that not be nice, your feedback is very important.

    ANNOUNCING SAVAGE 220 UPGRADES 1 for $265 worth looking at, 23 inch the barrel OD at muzzle .870 inch.

    The upgrade #2 costing $450 with contoured barrel 23 inch measures at the muzzle .935 inch.
    23 inch overall length, 1-24″ twist rate, (SS heavy wall barrel), matte finished, Helical Fluted and a Muzzle Brake as standard.

    https://www.tarhunt.com/announcing-savage-220-upgrades/

    I just tried talking them into giving us Nitro Express shooters a break, no luck so far but it would not hurt to call them, #570-784-6368

    One for all, All for one !

    My friend Steve just informed me on my other Nitro Express forum:
    20 ga Magtech all brass. New 18 ga wads 85 gr Rel-17, first 2 shots 1"! May have pulled last shot. 50 yds. Load & Eject like greased!


    He will soon report back after he is satisfied with the results. He does not give up and is very determined.
    Here is the best part if you too get the upgrade #2 with 20 ga Nitro Express heavy barrel of .935 you too can load heavier loads safely ! !

    **--** I just spoke to Jay at Pac-Nor barrels and lets hope we manage to get a better deal for our " High Power Nitro Express Shooters "

    Here is one more Great Nitro Express, I simply love it, price $1270:
    Browning A-Bolt Stalker Review
    https://www.americanhunter.org/artic...talker-review/

    Return of the Bolt-Action Slug Gun
    https://buckmasters.com/Magazines/Gu...ction-Slug-Gun

    Ajay Madan
    Super Blazing Sabots
    My Savage 220 measures .810 inch at the muzzle ! !
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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check