AmmoBrassTrader.com

[BT Sniper]

I bet there is still plenty of previous members that would vollenter to moderate a new ABT sight. Wasn't there a George from the previous sight that was always good about making sure things where kept on track? I don't even know if he was a mod but he was good.

BT

[rbuck351]

I can't remember if they even had moderators but yeah George was really good and there were several other members that helped keep things in order. Actually most of the members were pretty good about helping keep things running smooth. Leonard owned and operated the site but he was not available about half the time and the members self regulated pretty well. I have never seen a site that was ran as loose but yet as well operated as ABT. It would be great to have that group back trading again.

[DukeInFlorida]

You know..........

I am sure I could have a chat with 45Nut (the owner of the forum, Ken) and convince him to ADD a new section to this forum, with the express purpose of providing the same service. There are some additional financial resources in the current budget for some small development, and he might be happy to accommodate.

As you know, castboolits.gunloads.com is only a small part of the existing gunloads.com realm.

Maybe Ken would add something like ammobrasstrader.gunloads.com

Let me have a while to work on that.

I am just home from the hospital, and will be recovering during treatments for my Multiple Myeloma for a few months. I can't do ny heavy lifting, shooting, reloading, casting, etc... But maybe I can type messages.

Let's chill this conversation for a while. We might get the best of both worlds: 1) A new ammobrasstrader.... 2) and have it right here, where we already like to visit..........

Orville

[Brasso]

I have a list of 80 or so guys from ABT that I've made trades with if it will help in any way. Some of the posters here are on it. Also "Brasso" on ABT.

Sam

[rbuck351]

That's a great idea Duke. I think I still have a list of 20 or 30 folks that I traded with as well. And yes there are quite a few ABT members that use Cast Boolits. Thanks Buck

[DukeInFlorida]

Been checking in the background, and it seems very feasable. Just have to touch base with Ken (45Nut) and get his blessing. Willy Synder would do the quick work.

[JP174]

Great I will be watching. I have some stuff I need to send to you Brian.

[DukeInFlorida]

Last night, after the power came back (Hurricane Sandy), I chatted with Ken (45Nut) on this subject. He was familiar with ammobrasstrader, and likes the idea of ammobrasstrader.gunloads.com as the format for the new site.

He's going to check in with Willy, our resident web site builder, and see if Willy can get started on it. He'd like to get some additional "sponsors" for the new site, to help defray the additional bandwidth usage.

Perhaps some of the brass manufacturers would be willing to support the effort. Star, Hornady, etc. Any of you got any industry contacts that could help?

[DanWalker]

How about levyying a small transaction fee like ebay does? Nothing outrageous, just enough to defray the costs of the server. It seems fair to me that the people who will profit from the existence of the site should help to pay for the service that's helping them profit.

[justingrosche]

Duke, I have Leonards email address if you need it. I might have already given it to you during our previous conversation on the matter.

[DukeInFlorida]

No, I don't have it, but would very much like to have it. Send via PM, please.
While Ken is working through Willy Snider to make this happen, having Leonard's contact info would help guide Willy through the design phase.

I thought that several people tried to contact Leonard, and got no replies? Justin, do you have any way of confirming that the email address that you have is a currently good (active) one?

PM it to me, and I'll work on getting ahold of Leonard.

Duke, I have Leonards email address if you need it. I might have already given it to you during our previous conversation on the matter.

[Gunload Master]

Can you guys fill me in a little more on how AmmoBrassTrader.com worked? Was it a basic type forum like castboolits, or was it more in depth than that? I would be willing to take this project on, I just need more details on how ABT.com worked as I have never been there before? Any and all details would be great.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

It was a forum much like CB, but much simpler.
basically it was just like CB's sellin' and swappin' section,
but not as organized. It was all in one newsfeed type of thing.
you could search out particular catagories, if the OP was classified correctly.
but that wasn't much of a problem because there wasn't a large membership
and not too much traffic for a one newsfeed type of thing,
like one page a day (one page being about 25 posts)

While there were some "trades",
it was mostly sellin and buying going on.
also, very little "other conversation" going on.

I don't really see a need to revive it.
it was great in the Hayday of when scrap prices were low.
the activity there dropped off ALOT
after the 2008 commodities/metals prices skyrocketed.
that's my 2¢
Jon

[Gunload Master]

One quick idea that I just came up with:

http://abt.gunloads.com

This actually re-directs to a "hidden" section here on Castboolits that is it's own section of the forum. Does not interfere with Castboolits, but your account works over there as well as here. This is subject to change and be deleted as it's 100% testing phase right now.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

I just checked out your test link.

one thing Ammobrasstrader had was the name.
people google searching for ammo or brass or trade would find that site.

Is there a way to use the name or keywords ?
so a search engine will find that forum ?
Jon

[Gunload Master]

I can change it to ammobrasstrader.gunloads.com real easy. I can also setup keywords that search engines will be able to find to increase traffic there. That's no problem there.
This is more along the lines of wondering if I am going in the right direction?

[BT Sniper]

Test link looked pretty good.

All I can sugest is keep it simple. Don't have to many subcatigories, what you have there looked fine but as far as the old site went I remember nearly everything listed in just one forum. Anything you needed was right there in one simple place to be found if you where the buyer and if you where the seller you reached more potential buyers of what you had to offer. Maybe I wasn't looking for loaded 300WM ammo when I went looking for 45 ACP brass but I just happen to see the 300WM going for $10 a box..... guess I better buy some...... etc. What you have there I'm sure would work too, probably a little easier to find what one is looking for if seperated but ABT had it all

Attaching any fee or charges per transaction, as previously suggested, I don't think would be a good idea. If the sight is in need of additional funds to cover the extra band width the anual donation drive always seemed to do well. On Savage Shooters . com memebers pay $12 a year to be able to view the "For Sale" listings. A cheap yearly fee and easily recovered in the good deals that can be found there. I suspect any brass found here would also be good deals. I don't suggest a fee but if need be, and donations can't cover it then I would favor a yearly $12 fee or so vs. per trade fees.

To me the orginal ABT always seemed like the place to find brass at the absolute best prices. Many great members and was patroled well be the memebers. If you didn't have "personal" info listed in your profile, up to and including your address you where watched very carfully if you had a low trade count.

BT

[BT Sniper]

What if it was even simpler?

With your test example one would need to check 8 different forums for potential good deals. I have a tough time checking more then one or two different forums.

What if it was simply broke down into 3 catigories or less, then let the poster lable his thread as either "WTS" or "WTT" as in Want To Sell or Want To Trade or "FS" and "FT" as in For Sale or For Trade. Then we could even post "WTB"

For example..... WTS 308 brass, WTT 223 brass, WTB FN5.7x28 brass

AMMO

BRASS

EQUIPMENT (dies, cast, molds, misc. etc)

[BT Sniper]

As far as reviving it........ I am postive there is still a need for a good spot to sell and swap brass and various shooting items. I get inquires all the time as to the previous sight.

Whether ABT.castboolits will do well vs. a sepperate ABT2 I don't know? But I know many miss the sight and still are sitting on more brass then we knwo what to do with.

BT

[MIBULLETS]

One quick idea that I just came up with:

http://abt.gunloads.com

This actually re-directs to a "hidden" section here on Castboolits that is it's own section of the forum. Does not interfere with Castboolits, but your account works over there as well as here. This is subject to change and be deleted as it's 100% testing phase right now.

I like it just the way you have it. I don't want to go through all the items I'm not looking for. Not too many sub categories, but enough to get to the items you are looking for quickly.