Any interest in a copy of the original .32 colt New Police bullet?

[NoZombies]

When colt chambered their revolvers for the .32 S&W long, they called them ".32 New Police." To keep from marking any of their guns with the S&W name. At the same time, they specified that the bullet be a flat nose projectile, rather than round nose. Otherwise the cartridges are the same.

I have one each of the original Ideal and Winchester molds for the .32 New Police, and I find the bullets to shoot well in all of my .32 revolvers (not just the colt) and I would be interested in getting a multi-cavity mold for the same bullet.

The Ideal mold that I have casts a 102 grain bullet at .316" from my alloy. I suspect it would cast .313+" in pure lead, and obviously weigh a bit more.

The Ideal bullet has a single wide and shallow lube groove. The Winchester bullet is pictured further down in the thread, and has a deeper but narrower lube groove with a wider base band.

[Bodydoc447]

Please post the pictures. That might generate some more interest.

Thanks,

Doc

[william iorg]

I'm posting to subscribe to the thread. I have a fondness for .32 caliber molds.

[scrapcan]

Depending on design,cost, and maker I might be interested also. To me it is the early incarnation of the WFRN style bullet.

What number is your ideal mould?

[0verkill]

Waiting patiently for pics.

[SwedeNelson]

NoZombies

Send us a few samples and will get a drawing up.

NOE Bullet Moulds
1645 W 150 N
Provo, UT 84601

Swede Nelson

[NoZombies]

Jeremy, my mold is part of a tong combination tool simply marked "32 NP"

I've updated the first post with a photo of the bullet

My mold has a very slight bevel base to it. I would not be at all apposed to losing that.

And here's what a loaded round looks like, when loaded with the 32 new police combo tong tool:

[scrapcan]

Tony,

That is the bullet I thought it would be. I have an unusable tong tool of this variety. I think it would be a good one to have.

[NoZombies]

Tony,

That is the bullet I thought it would be. I have an unusable tong tool of this variety. I think it would be a good one to have.

Jeremy,

I looked for a long time to find a .32 S&W tong tool, and just happened across this one. Since it's part of my "Zombie's are coming" bug-out bag, being a flat nose is better than if it would have been the round nose variety. Now if only I could find a set of 310 dies, I'd be set.

In the mean time, I'd like to have a 2+ cavity version of the mold. Of course, I am a .32 mold hoarder, so that should surprise no-one.

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I've got a handful of the bullets in a padded envelope addressed to NOE. I'll send them out as soon as I get to the PO this week.

[NoZombies]

I finally had a chance to mess with the Winchester made .32 NP mold. It's got some minor differences, and I thought I would post about them here.

The base driving band is thicker, the lube groove is narrower, but deeper, and the meplat is slightly smaller. I think if there is enough interest for a group buy, I would recommend using the meplat from the Ideal bullet, and the base band and lube groove from the Winchester bullet.

Here's a side by side comparison, Ideal on the left, Winchester on the right.

[sewerman68]

I would like one with the possibilty of a hollow point version.

[Springfield]

I like the Winchester base with either meplat.

[Bodydoc447]

I also like the Winchester base. The larger meplat would be nice if it is possible.

Doc

[Dschuttig]

I believe that your ideal bullet may be the same as the #31357. I have a single cavity mold with this designation and just compared it with your pic, and they look identical. The sample that I weighed came in at 100.7 grs. I would be interested in a mold if it was similiar to the ideal.

[0verkill]

Those two bullets bring a question to mind. If 2 bullets have the exact same lube capacity, but one's lube groove is shorter and deeper vs a longer and shallower lube groove, would there be any effect?

[NoZombies]

As a general rule, there is a direct relationship between base band thickness and potential gas cutting. If these bullets are loaded to .32 New Police (or S&W long) pressures, I don't imagine either would suffer from gas cutting. In my limited experience shooting the ideal bullet, I saw no evidence of leading. I was not pushing the bullet to magnum velocities, so I can't speak to that.

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

I wonder if this would work in a Colt .31 caliber percussion revolver...?

Rich

[0verkill]

I've never owned a 31 caliber cap & ball, but Mike Venturino's Shooting Colt Single Actions lists ball diameter at .325. 32 pistol bullets run no more than .314. Odd that 31's are 32 and 32's are 31.

[Idaho Sharpshooter]

That's Mike...

but the one sitting here on my desk is about .314"

I never did like the idea some espouse of using a baby sledge to seat the balls.

[Nora]

I'd be interested in either flavor should it make it to an active GB

Nora