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    With the low velocity* fire lapping loads the yawing on target is definitely going away.

    *266469 paper patched with Clover fine grit, .22LR case full of Unique and quilt batting tuft over the powder.

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    Maybe time to order a mold.
    Last edited by Good Cheer; 01-12-2014 at 06:14 PM. Reason: rechecked dimension

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    Lo these many months later, after relocating across the continent, the barrel has been polished some more by fire lapping. And it's better than it used to be. The yawing on target appears to have stopped, at least at thirty yards anyhow. Need to wrap up another batch and sit down at 50 and 100.

    The patches being used give .270 diameter for the part inside the case neck (two wraps) and .273 in front of that (three wraps), in essence creating a heel base type boolit with the nine pound rag paper and #266469.

    Maybe the #266469 cavities should be modified to partly get rid of the depth of the lube grooves and increase the forward section diameter to allow creating .273 / .274 with only two wraps. Not real sure about this though due to the .008 or so deep rifling. Still learning about the little Dutch carbine, still scratching my head, still having fun.

    Some day soon perhaps it will be time to shop for a scope that wouldn't look terribly out of place on a cute little piece dating back to 1915.

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    I had one rebarreled to .303 British , and it shot great....then someone stole it....if I got another , that's what I'd do

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    A friend of mine had one of these Dutch 6.5's years ago. It was a beautiful little sporter carbine put together by Rigby with express sights on a full length solid ribbed barrel. Gorgeous little gun. He asked me to help him load some ammo so he could use it. We used .303 British cases and ran them into my 6.5x54MS dies until the shoulder was a light crush fit. I used the Hornady 160 grain round nose bullet with Lyman's suggested 6.5MS loads and IMR4895. It shot well at 100 yards and we fine tuned the load until it shot right on the original 100 yard sight leaf at 100 yards. Wish I could have talked him out of that rifle, but in the end he gifted it to his son to use for hunting up in the BC interior where he worked and lived.
    I may have passed my "Best Before" date, but I haven't reached my "Expiry" date!

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    Ordered a .273 sizer last night.
    Trying to cobble things together without having to order a custom mold.

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    Some polishing rounds set aside to dry and then be cleaned up and prepped for firing.


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    My Westley Richards Mannlicher-Schoenauer had a badly eroded barrel, so I cut it at a shallow step about four inches in front of the receiver, bored it and inserted a Douglas No2 contour barrel. I bored the stub with a taper pin reamer and turned the barrel to match, except for a flange about ⅓in. thick which butted against the stub.

    Some scopes not entirely contemporary with these rifles, but in keeping without sacrificing modern optical standards, are the external-adjustment Bausch and Lombs. Most of them are available in good condition from HE Gibbs, including the Mannlicher-Schoenauer mount which I think could be made to fit, although the Mannlicher-Schoenauer has a charger guide.

    http://www.bauschandlombscopemounts.freeservers.com/HE

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    Where can u get brass

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    747 captain,
    Made them from .303's.

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    And the adventure continues.
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    I'm not into militaries, but I have some 6.5x ??? It is rimmed and has military FMJ bullet. I know
    it's not Sweede, Jap,or Carcano. Can some one post a picture of this cartridge with head stamp.
    These are Berdan no doubt? The listing of 6.5s are mind boggling and it seems everyone had their
    own version.

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    This is a picture of some of my early polishing rounds.
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    The head stamps are just .303 'cause they're home made.

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    What are the loads you're using and where did you find the data? I've got the Lee cruise missile a 140 and a 150 Lyman molds to fool with in a 6.5x53r. Just starting to load for this, looking for all the data I can find.

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    I've just been trying (off and on, when time allows) to get the barrel to a usable condition with lapping.
    Now looking at the ever changing patterns of clean up (heavy sigh) I think it's not going to work well enough.
    Perhaps this winter shall tell the tale.

    Here's all the info links I have on file...
    http://www.yesterdaysweapons.com/php...php?f=30&t=270
    http://www.loaddata.com/members/sear...etallicID=1078
    http://stevespages.com/page8d.htm
    http://stevespages.com/264_26_160.html
    http://www.ch4d.com/contact-us/beth?layout=sent
    http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=429612
    http://bobshellsblog.blogspot.com/20...tch-rifle.html
    http://www.collectie.legermuseum.nl/...n/i004810.html
    http://dechielfirearms.com/2012/02/a...private-party/

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check