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Hi,
I would like to shoot my mosins down at the silhouette portion of our range but I have to have cast bullets for my rifle. What would be involved in doing a Mexican Match job with the TL314-90-SWCs in to some russian steel cased surplus 7.62x54r? I could save the surplus powder and bullets for reloading the fmjs when I finally get some reloadable brass. I have bunches of steel cased surplus and I have BE powder but no 7.62x54r dies or bullets. I found the Hornady swc's for $33 per 500. This would be cheap shooting if I can use the cast bullets in the steel surplus cases. Any thoughts?
I haven't used any steel cases but I've used about 300 Bulgarian cases that were given to me (owner pulld the bullets and powder and loaded in boxer primed cases). I loaded the mentioned 3.2 gr of Bullseye under the TL314-90-SWCs and went shooting. They worked as well as with boxer primed cases. Unfortunately I threw them away before I discovered how to convert the primer pockets to boxer primers. I see no reason why the steel cases won't work as well. I would use a .31 M die at least before seating the bullet though.
Larry Gibson
Anyone tried these HBWCs? http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm...|281|1083|1138
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I use 2400 or trail boss in the 54r and both work great. I use larger boolits than you are discussing as the lighter ones didn't group well for me, but both powders work great.
I'm excited to try the little 90 grainer in my 91/30. Have shot many TL312-155-2R and 312-185 with 16 grains of 2400. Very accurate at 50 or 100 yds with the elevation set for 400M. What's the elevation set at for the 90 grain/3.2 BE (non-sniper model)?
This is a Winchester 1894, not a mosin but great fun bullet with 7.0grains Trail Boss and holes touching at 50metres with aperture sights:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...t=tl314-90-swc
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I don't know about 7.62x54 but I shoot a lot of the Lee 311-93-RN in any 30 cal rifle with about 3 gr of bullseye or 5 r of Unique. Very accurate and quieter than a 22!
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Earlier in the post someone commented on dangers of fast powder in large cases. What does one need to be aware of to do th is safely? I assume the concern would be pressure spikes and this is ”controlled” by using light charges?
There is no "danger" with the loads discussed. There will be no "pressure spikes" with 3.2 gr of Bullseye under a 90 gr cast bullet in this cartridge. Even a double charge is well within the psi margins of the cartridge and poses no dangers.
Larry Gibson
Ever since Mr. Gibson turned me onto the Lee TL314-90-SWC and Bullseye powder I've been shooting cheap plinker loads in my Mosin and SKS rifles for about six months now. I also size the bullet down to .311" and shoot it in my 30-30 and 300 Sav. as well.
I just ran through this thread real quick and there is a lot of good info here. There are a lot of really nice loads for .30 and .31 caliber rifles that are in the butterfly sneeze to mouse sneeze range where the major cost is the primer.
My favorite for .308 Win, .30-06, 7.62x54R, 7.5 Swiss, 7.5 French, and all other similar cartridges is a 0.315" round ball that weighs about 45 grains in wheel weight alloy using somewhere around 3 or 4 grains of Bullseye, Unique, 700X, Red Dot, or Green Dot. I prefer Unique because it is a fairly "fluffy" powder compared to some others. I tried a few grains of Blue Dot once and the primer wouldn't ignite the tiny amount of powder.
I just tip the muzzle up before firing and don't bother with any case filler, I subscribe to the K.I.S.S. Principle.
I have tried using more than 4 grains of powder and found that accuracy just goes out the window, probably from the tiny barrel contact area of the round ball jumping the rifling.
The main problem with light ball loads is the very different exterior ballistics of a small ball changes the windage point of impact from where a 180 grain conical projectile normally hits the target. I don't recall whether the point of aim has to be changed to the left or right, but instead of adjusting my rifle sights for shooting just a few ball loads and then having to sight-in my rifle all over again for full house loads, I just put a dab of white-out correction fluid off to one side on my rear sight to use in place of the sight notch to get my rifle pointed in the right direction to compensate for the change in windage. It isn't that hard to figure out, and ~ 3 grains of Unique with a 45 grain round ball makes a nice basement shooting range load to shoot The Winter Blues away. Just remember that a 45 grain round ball out of even a super long 29-inch barrel in your Mosin-Nagant 91/30 is up there around a .22 Magnum rimfire in power, so be careful to have an adequate backstop.
Have fun safely, that is what it is all about!
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Old thread I know, but very interesting. I was wondering if anyone has tried the 90 grain Lee swc in a .300 blackout single-shot (Encore)? Maybe with Unique? Your thoughts? Thanks.
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.314 90 gr in .300BO yes, with Red Dot, 3 grains and 4.6. Shot well.
In fact, it shot the best I think in .30-30 with 4.6 grains of Red Dot in a Win 94. 100 yard factory load sights were right on at 25 yards. Almost no recoil or report, making this IMO a potentially very valuable small game load for the dirty thirty.
And you could tell them apart at a glance, or even with the fingers.
Currently shooting these in my new to me H&R 732, 733 revolvers in .32sw long.
2 grains of Red Dot, and showing real potential. I may have to find a revolver with a longer barrel and better sights to really see what they can do.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |