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    .358 Winchester

    Doing a little thinking on putting a .358 Winchester barrel on a Parker - Hale rifle that I have and was looking into the .358 Winchester round.

    It looks like it would be pretty good for cast boolits. I have read here that some folks have been having pretty good luck with it.

    I also got to thinking that single #000 buckshot may make a pretty good plinking load.

    That would give quit a range of loads available...plain base, gas checked, paper patched and something to pop paper / varmints / tin cans with.

    What'cha all think?

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    I don't have to think about it, the .358 Win is probably the best cast bullet round you can use.
    The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
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    Waksupi said it all.
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    True that...

    Think I could get away with the buckshot for tin can loads? I guess that they are called gallery loads, aren't they. I was also looking at some .357 / 9mm pistol molds for light boolits...

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    I have been on the lookout for a .350/.358 barrel up here.......

    so far, no luck

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    A 160gr Plainbase Roundnose (Lyman 358311) under 11gr of Unique is an awesome Bunny-roller.
    Last edited by bruce drake; 01-30-2012 at 08:51 AM. Reason: added mold #
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    Here is a fun load for the 358 Win :

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=51960

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    I have used Unique and pistol boolits from 180 gr to 200 gr
    a fun and accurate load to heavy serious hunting boolits
    between 200 gr and 280 gr so as you see it versatile
    it seems to have all the ingredients to preform well with cast
    and it does but sometime you have to work for it
    Hit em'hard
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    Thanks for all of the reply's...interesting stuff.

    Sooo, here's a question for the 358 clan, What do you think is the "ideal" twist rate? This rifle, if I get to build it, will probably never see a j-word bullet. It will see a bunch of different cast though. It seems that most folks have 1 in 14 or 1 in 16" twist rates.

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    I have a 1-12, and a 1-14. Both shoot well.
    The solid soft lead bullet is undoubtably the best and most satisfactory expanding bullet that has ever been designed. It invariably mushrooms perfectly, and never breaks up. With the metal base that is essential for velocities of 2000 f.s. and upwards to protect the naked base, these metal-based soft lead bullets are splendid.
    John Taylor - "African Rifles and Cartridges"

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    I have a custom Pac-nor barrel in 1/12 on
    my Model 70 compact that shoots cast real well
    and Hornady 25o's in the same hole
    Hit em'hard
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    I don't think you can do much better than a 1:12" twist barrel and good old 368009.

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    Have been looking for a mold to use with a .35 Gibbs win 70 barrel I got some years ago with a switchbarrel gun. Never mounted the barrel, but would make a great combo set with 8-3/8" M27.... Have the sizing die so really considering giving it a go.

    Is RCBS the only source for a new .358 rifle mold?

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    Has anybody on here ever used the m 99 in 358, if so how did you like or dislike it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edward hogan View Post
    Is RCBS the only source for a new .358 rifle mold?
    The Saeco 352 is a 245 gr 358 mold that works well in a 358 Win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MT Gianni View Post
    The Saeco 352 is a 245 gr 358 mold that works well in a 358 Win.
    Ditto. This is the most accurate boolit out of my M77 at hunting velocities.

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    I love this place...just sayin.

    Thanks for all of the input so far... Keep it coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by starmac View Post
    Has anybody on here ever used the m 99 in 358, if so how did you like or dislike it.
    Seems like someone listed one in the "Swappin & Sellin" area a year or three ago. Set a record for listing to sold time. Me, I've never even touched one. Maybe someday.
    ..

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    OK, another question has popped into my head.

    How long a barrel would be optimum for the 358Win?

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    Anything over 22 inches doesn't add much. Less than 20 and it starts to slow down and get loud.

    Or I could say 24 inches, that's how long the one on my Rem 700 is.

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