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    Top Punch Chart?

    Way back in the dawn of time, when I started casting, I had the current Lyman cast bullet book. Not sure but I think it was the first Lyman, glossy cover with a white plastic binder strip. It seems like I remember that either there was a chart of molds and top punches or they listed them by mold number with a picture and the G number.

    Is there anything available online that would give the mold and G numbers for molds going back 40 years or more.

    I've been digging through 40+ years of reloading "stuff". Some of it is going down the road as I see no reason I would ever use it again. Some is kind of like meeting an old friend. And some is even coming in under the heading of "Where the hell did I put that?"

    I found a .243 sizer that has been used but I don't remember ever casting a bullet that size. I have a .457 sizer but have never owned anything in that caliber. I had a .41 mag back when but apparently I never cast for it as I haven't found a mold or sizer.

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    "Is there anything available online that would give the mold and G numbers for molds going back 40 years or more."

    Don't know about on-line, but Lyman's Cast Bullet Handbook, 3rd edition, was first published 30-years ago and has a comprehensive listing of moulds and their corresponding top punches and seating stems.

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    Here it is but the formating is lost.



    Top Punch # Mold # (s) Nominal Diameter Nominal Weight Bullet Type

    #8 311041 .309" 173grs FNGC
    311008 .312" 115grs FN
    319247 .322" 165grs FN

    #43 401043 .401" 175grs FN
    403169 .408" 240grs FN
    427098 .428" 205grs FN
    401654 .401" 150grs SWCBB
    401638 .401" 175grs TCBB
    410610 .410" 215grs SWCGC

    #93 ?????

    #132 457132 .459" 535grs Semi-pointed

    #141 515141 .512" 425grs FN

    #190 454190 .454" 250grs FN

    #191 457191 .459" 292grs FNBB
    457122 .459" 330grs FNHP
    457643 .459" 400grs FN
    457193 .459" 405grs FN

    #203 245496 .244" 84grs RNGC

    #226 313249 .314" 85grs RN

    #251 439186 .439" 370grs RN
    446110 .446" 340grs RNFP
    429383 .430" 245grs RN

    #284 311284 .309" 210grs RNGC

    #303 ?????

    #311 356242 .356" 90grs RN
    356242* .356" 120grs RN
    358311 .358" 160grs RN

    #346 287346 .285" 135grs RNGC

    #348 ?????

    #359 311359 .312" 115grs PTGC

    #360 ?????

    #374 457124 .459" 385grs RN
    457671 .459" 475grs RNGC
    457125 .459" 500grs RN
    452374 .452" 225grs RN
    452374 .452" 180grs DEV HP

    #402 356402 .356" 120grs TC

    #413 311332 .309" 180grs PTGC

    #415 225415 .225" 55grs FNGC

    #420 25742 .258" 65grs FNGC

    #421 429215 .430" 210grs SWCGC
    429421 .430" 245grs SWC
    429244 .430" 255grs SWCGC
    429650 .430" 300rs SWCGC

    #424 452424 .452" 255grs SWC
    452490 .452" 255grs SWCGC

    #429 358477 .358" 150grs SWC
    358156 .358" 155grs SWCGC
    358429 .358" 170grs SWC

    #430 358430 .358" 195grs RN

    #438 225438 .225" 44grs RNGC

    #449 375248 .379" 249grs FN
    375449 .379" 264grs FNGC
    410655 .410" 400grs FN

    #460 452460 .452" 200grs SWC
    452630 .452" 200grs FNBB

    #463 266469 .264" 140grs RNGC

    #465 311291 .309" 170grs RNGC
    311252 .311" 75grs RN

    #467 311410 .312" 130grs Pointed tip
    311299 .309" 200grs RNGC
    314299 .314" 200grs RNGC

    #470 323470 .325" 165grs RNGC

    #495 358665 .358" 158grs RNFP

    #637 356637 .356" 147grs FNBB
    356637 .356" 124grs Dev HPBB

    #641 266673 .264" 150grs Semi-pointed GC SIL
    280642 .278" 150grs FNGC
    287641 .285" 160grs SIL

    #644 311672 .309" 160grs FTGC SIL
    311644 .309" 190grs Semi-pointed GC SIL

    #646 225646 .225" 55grs Semi-pointed GC

    #649 429667 .430" 240grs RNFPBB
    429640 .430" 250grs DEV HPGC
    452664 .452" 250grs RNFP
    452651 .452" 325grs FNGC
    501680 .501" 360grs SWC

    #658 410660 .410" 385grs Semi-pointed
    457658 .459" 480grs Semi-pointed

    #663 378674 .379" 335grs RN
    410663 .410" 40grs RN

    #677 457677 .459" 490grs Pointed-tip

    #678 ?????

    RN= Round Nose
    FP= Flat Point
    FN= Flat Nose
    SWC= Semi-wadcutter
    BB= Bevel Base
    GC= Gascheck
    HP= Hollow Point
    DEV= Devastator
    SIL= Silhouette

    RCBS TOP PUNCH CHART

    RCBS Top Punches
    Pistol
    Sizer Die Top Punch Top Punch
    Mold Part Number Bullet Type Part Number Part Number Number
    82021 32-077-RN 82214 82536 465
    82060 32-098-WC 82216 82543 445
    82061 32-098-SWC 82216 82542 444
    82057 38-090-RN 82221 82513 311
    82026 09-115-RN 82221 82504 115
    82062 9mm-124-RN 82221 82521 401
    82063 09-124-RN-TG 82221 82504 115
    82027 09-124-CN 82221 82522 402
    82077 9mm-147-FN 82221 85556 556
    82084 9mm-100-RN 82248 82551 551
    82030 38-148-WC-DE 82223 82515 344
    82031 38-148-WC 82223 82529 429
    82032 38-150-SWC 82223 82529 429
    82064 38-158-RN 82223 82513 311
    82065 38-158-SWC 82223 82529 429
    82066 40-180-FN 82245 85558 558
    82067 10mm-170-SWC 82243 85518 518
    82068 100-200-SWC 82243 85518 518
    82039 41-210-SWC 82226 82541 420
    82041 44-225-SWC 82229 82527 421
    82042 44-240-SWC 82229 82527 421
    82043 44-245-SWC 82229 82527 421
    82080 44-250-K 82229 82527 421
    82044 44-250-SWC 82229 82527 421
    82079 44-300-SWC 82229 82527 421
    82052 45-185-SWC-BB 82233 82545 680
    82046 45-200-SWC 82233 82534 460
    82047 45-201-SWC 82233 82545 680
    82081 45-225-CAV 82234 85552 552
    82048 45-230-RN 82233 82519 374
    82049 45-250-FN 82234 82506 190
    82050 45-255-SWC 82234 82528 424
    82092 45-270-SAA 82234 82528 424
    82083 45-300-SWC 82233 82528 424
    82087 50-340-SWC+ 82254 85611 611
    Cowboy Molds
    82301 25-85-CM 82204 85630 630
    82302 30-150-CM 82212 85631 631
    82303 32-90-CM 82216 85632 632
    82304 38-140-CM 82223 85633 633
    82305 38-158-CM 82223 85633 633
    82306 40-180-CM 82245 85635 635
    82307 44-200-CM 82244/82229 85636 636
    82308 45-230-CM 82233/82234 85637 637
    Rifle
    Sizer Die Top Punch Top Punch
    Mold Part Number Bullet Type Part Number Part Number Number
    82007 22-055-SP 82240 85506 506
    82015 243-095-SP 82202 85509 509
    82016 257-120-SP 82204 85515 515
    82017 270-150-SP 82206 85529 529
    82018 7mm--168-SP 82209 85531 531
    82009 30-115-SP 82212 85535 535
    82019 30-150-FN 82212 85546 546
    82020 30-180-SP 82212 85541 541
    82014 30-180-FN 82212 85546 546
    82022 7.62-130SPL 82212 85554 546
    82023 310-120-RN 82213 85543 543
    82024 32-170-FN 82217 85550 550
    82028 35-200-FN 82223 85565 565
    82029 37-250-FN 82275 85570 570
    82090 378-312-BPS 82252 85608 608
    82070 40-300-SP-CSA 82226 82520 378
    82074 40-350-SP-CSA+ 82226 82520 378
    82074 40-400-SP-CSA+ 82212 85520 378
    82086 40-400-BPS+ 82226 85609 609
    82075 416-350-FN+ 82246 85562 562
    82036 44-200-FN 82244 85595 595
    82093 44-370-FN 82253 85585 585
    82051 45-300-FN 82236 85600 600
    82045 45-325-FN-U 82236 85583 383
    82053 45-405-FN+ 82236 85600 600
    82054 45-500-FN+ 82236 85600 600
    82085 45-500-BPS+ 82236 85607 607

    Top Punches

    If you know of any other combinations of top punches that work with lee molds,
    please forward them to webmaster@castpics.net for inclusion in this list.
    Thanks.


    Lee Mold Lyman RCBS
    22 Bator 646
    311-093-1R 465
    311-100-2R 226
    TL314-90-SWC
    358-105-SWC 467,402
    358-125-RF 429 429
    358-140-SWC 554 554
    TL358-148-WC 495
    358-148-WC 495
    358-150-1R 311
    358-150-SWC 554 554
    TL358-158-SWC 429 550
    C358-158-SWC 429 429
    TL358-158-2R 311
    358-158-RF 43
    356-102-1R 311
    356-120-TC 402 550
    TL356-124-2R 311
    TL356-124-TC 402
    356-125-2R 311
    365-95-1R
    401-145-SWC
    TL401-175-SWC 43
    401-175-TC 460, 43
    410-195-SWC 43
    TL410-210-SWC
    429-214-SWC 421
    C429-240-SWC 421
    429-200-RF 649
    429-240-2R 251
    429-255-SWC
    TL430-240-SWC 241
    C430-310-RF 649 600
    452-160-RF 649
    452-200-SWC 460
    452-200-RF 649
    TL452-200-SWC 344, 43
    452-228-1R 374 374
    TL452-230-2R 374
    TL452-230-TC 460 191
    452-230-TC 460
    452-252-SWC 421
    452-255-RF 190, 649
    C452-300-RF 649
    C476-325-RF
    476-400-RF
    C501-440-RF
    C285-130-R 413
    C309-113-F 8
    C309-120-R
    C309-130-R 465
    C309-150-F 8
    C309-160-R
    C309-170-F
    C309-180-R
    C309-200-R 467
    C312-155-2R 467
    CTL312-160-2R
    C312-185-1R
    C324-175-1R 470, 467, NEI 59
    C329-205-1R
    C338-220-1R
    379-250-RF
    457-340-F
    457-405-F
    459-405-HB 374 374
    457-450-F
    C457-500-F
    459-500-3R
    515-450-F
    515-500-F

    Top Punches



    Lee Mold Lyman RCBS
    22 Bator 646
    311-093-1R 465
    311-100-2R 226
    TL314-90-SWC
    358-105-SWC 467,402
    358-125-RF 429 429
    358-140-SWC 554 554
    TL358-148-WC 495
    358-148-WC 495
    358-150-1R 311
    358-150-SWC 554 554
    TL358-158-SWC 429 550
    C358-158-SWC 429 429
    TL358-158-2R 311
    358-158-RF 43
    356-102-1R 311
    356-120-TC 402 550
    TL356-124-2R 311
    TL356-124-TC 402
    356-125-2R 311
    365-95-1R
    401-145-SWC
    TL401-175-SWC 43
    401-175-TC 460, 43
    410-195-SWC 43
    TL410-210-SWC
    429-214-SWC 421
    C429-240-SWC 421
    429-200-RF 649
    429-240-2R 251
    429-255-SWC
    TL430-240-SWC 241
    C430-310-RF 649 600
    452-160-RF 649
    452-200-SWC 460
    452-200-RF 649
    TL452-200-SWC 344, 43
    452-228-1R 374 374
    TL452-230-2R 374
    TL452-230-TC 460 191
    452-230-TC 460
    452-252-SWC 421
    452-255-RF 190, 649
    C452-300-RF 649
    C476-325-RF
    476-400-RF
    C501-440-RF
    C285-130-R 413
    C309-113-F 8
    C309-120-R
    C309-130-R 465
    C309-150-F 8
    C309-160-R
    C309-170-F
    C309-180-R
    C309-200-R 467
    C312-155-2R 467
    CTL312-160-2R
    C312-185-1R
    C324-175-1R 470, 467, NEI 59
    C329-205-1R
    C338-220-1R
    379-250-RF
    457-340-F
    457-405-F
    459-405-HB 374 374
    457-450-F
    C457-500-F
    459-500-3R
    515-450-F
    515-500-F

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    Very handy, thanks.
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    Just another little reason why...

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    Don't forget about castpics when looking for any resource data.

    http://www.castpics.net/subsite/TopPunches/default.html

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    Top Punch

    Lyman's 4th addition is available from several different locations. Mine came from Amazon. Not where I can put my hands on it at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alan in Vermont View Post
    Way back in the dawn of time, when I started casting, I had the current Lyman cast bullet book. Not sure but I think it was the first Lyman, glossy cover with a white plastic binder strip. It seems like I remember that either there was a chart of molds and top punches or they listed them by mold number with a picture and the G number.

    Is there anything available online that would give the mold and G numbers for molds going back 40 years or more.

    I've been digging through 40+ years of reloading "stuff". Some of it is going down the road as I see no reason I would ever use it again. Some is kind of like meeting an old friend. And some is even coming in under the heading of "Where the hell did I put that?"

    I found a .243 sizer that has been used but I don't remember ever casting a bullet that size. I have a .457 sizer but have never owned anything in that caliber. I had a .41 mag back when but apparently I never cast for it as I haven't found a mold or sizer.

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    I am struggling similarly. I am seeking top punches for a Lyman 4500 lube sizer for use with the following bullets: Lee 501-440, Lyman 9 mm Ogive (think 125 gr) mold # 06-18 8583, Lyman 38 spec (think 158 gr) full wad cutter mold # 358495 510, and Lee 380 (think 92 gr) RNFP Mold # 358-95. Any help would be most appreciated, thanks.

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    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3978077
    https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3975185

    Is your Lyman 9mm the one this is cloned from?
    http://arsenalmolds.com/index.php?ro...&product_id=57

    If you have access to a 3d printer then you can match any bullet profile pretty easily. Don't worry about longevity - I've crushed bullets and had a PLA top punch come out fine.

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    I looked everywhere for a list like this.I have a ol lyman #45 lube-sizer but mostly lee molds.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check