Scot 453 Data...

[BCB]

I know this has been discussed in the past and I looked at some of the old posts...

I Googled it and still didn't find much data...

Went to Accurate Arms website and still no data--couldn't seem to find the "contact" link on that site either...

Any help with this powder? A source of data?...

Handguns are my concern, especially 45 acp...

Thanks...

BCB

[Rocky Raab]

I have a Scot load brochure and can help if you give me some specific bullets.

[BCB]

Thanks…

Data for the 45 acp in a “standard” weight bullet—say 200-230 grains…

And maybe something for the 45 Colt with the 45-270-SAA (283 grains)…

I have a Scot brochure also but it doesn’t list 453…

I wonder if the name of that powder was changed to some other number that Scot offers/offered…

Thanks…BCB

[SteveD]

I was told that it uses the same data as Accurate #2.

[Rocky Raab]

Now that I've looked it up, my brochure doesn't list any loads with 453 in those cartridges, either. On the back, it says that 453 performs identically with AA452 in handgun loadings. So if you can find some old data for AA452, just use that.

Failing even that, you can confidently use my "mystery handgun powder" method:

Load one or two rounds of the mystery powder using Bullseye data. Chrono and compare the actual velocity with what Bullseye would give. If the speeds are close, just use Bullseye data for the mystery powder. If the delivered velocity is a little bit less, use Red/GreenDot data.

If the velocity is materially less, load two more rounds using Unique data. Compare again and treat accordingly.

If velocity is still materially less than what Unique would produce, repeat a third time using the mystery powder with 2400 data.

I've never had to go beyond those three levels, but if I did, I'd clearly be dealing with a mystery rifle powder, not handgun.

[RayinNH]

BCB, I have load data that was sent to me by Accurate Powders years ago. I have data for the following handgun cartridges, .40 S&W, .38 Super, .380 AP,.44 mag, .38 Special, .38 Special +p, 9mm, .357 mag, .45 ACP.

I you or anyone else would like this data I can scan it and E-mail it to you. Just send me a PM with your E-mail address...Ray

[BerdanIII]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ighlight=AA452

For Win AA452 data from Speer.

[BCB]

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ighlight=AA452

For Win AA452 data from Speer.

Your post #22 on that link you posted pretty much says it all...

Guess, 452 might be a similar powder to start looking for data...

Thanks...BCB

[BCB]

Rocky Raab,

Intersting "mystery handgun powder" test...

After I read it, it sure seems simple, and so dang logical...

May do that as a method also...

I'm getting some good info and data. I will be able to put 2 & 2 together and hopefully get 4...

I really don't think it should be too difficult now that I have some numbers to work with...

Thanks all...

BCB

[Rocky Raab]

Thanks, BCB.

Over the years, I have come into so many obsolete, odd or new-without-data powders that I had to come up with some way to load them without expending body parts. I've used that method with Alcan, Vectan, Herters, ADI, Scot, and even some unbranded Chicom/Rooskie "mystery" powders and still have both eyes and all ten fingers.

BTW, I usually start with 158-gr cast bullets in .38 Special cases, 3.0 grains of mystery powder and fired in a Ruger 357 Blackhawk. I look for about 650 fps if it is a "Bullseye clone."

[Marlin Junky]

I use WW-231 data.

MJ

[Sven]

I bought 8 lbs of Scott 453 to use reloading .40S&W, and got reloading data for this powder off either this site or S&WForum -- I can't remember which. I did a search under my user name and didn't come up with anything, either. I have it printed out at home and will try to remember to do something with it tomorrow afternoon. If I can't figure out how to post it, I'll try emailing.