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    KIK Powder

    You guys that have been shooting the KIK, are you finding that it likes compression or not? I'm down to my last case of Swiss and thought that I might give KIK a try especially at the price. Just looking for a place to start, maybe save a little trouble.

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    Boz from what I've used of it, it doesn't really seem to care. You will be amazed at how clean it shoots.
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    If you take the Black Powder Cartridge Rifle magazine....go back to the 2006 issues and find the article by Dan Pharis concerning heavy compression of BP! I've found that the KIK powder likes very little compression with PP and a .240" thick lube cookie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMulhern View Post
    If you take the Black Powder Cartridge Rifle magazine....go back to the 2006 issues and find the article by Dan Pharis concerning heavy compression of BP! I've found that the KIK powder likes very little compression with PP and a .240" thick lube cookie.
    Dan hangs out on American Long Rifles quite a bit, you could ask him if he has any updates. Dan has his poop in a pile, as a rule. One of the first places I stayed in Montana thirty some years ago, was on his family's ranch down at Big Timber.
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    Don McDowell gave me a pound of 2F out at the Sagebrush shoot last August, and I just got around to loading and shooting it. I have the same situation; I'm on my last pound of Swiss and have to do something soon. I loaded it the same as I did the Swiss: 72 grs. under the RCBS 530 gr. bullet with an oatmeal box wad compressed .250. It shoots to the same point of aim and the same accuracy as Swiss in my .45 2 1/10 and like Don says, I'm surprised at how clean it shoots. I'm going to order a case of it.

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    Charlie glad it worked for you. See you on or about the 4th of May at the Hoffland range.
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    Boz, those that have been shooting the 2010 lot of KIK grades of powder have been pleased with it. This includes myself.
    Here's some reading material about the powder:
    http://www.schuetzenpowder.com/forum...hp?topic=106.0
    http://www.schuetzenpowder.com/forum...hp?topic=107.0
    http://www.schuetzenpowder.com/forum...hp?topic=108.0
    Regards
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    Kik

    The Kik Lot #3910 that is being sold by Powder Inc has shown great results as tested by W30wcf also. He posted a string of videos that shows his results with the lever action rifle in 44-40.
    I know this is not a BPCR round or rifle but it does show that this powder is doing well across the board.
    It has been impressive enough for me to purchase this powder. I have loaded ammo but due to health problems have no test work myself to post.
    Thanks for taking time to post your screen test John Boy.Later David
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    Thanks guys that is what I was looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun shooter View Post
    The Kik Lot #3910 that is being sold by Powder Inc has shown great results as tested by W30wcf also. He posted a string of videos that shows his results with the lever action rifle in 44-40.
    I know this is not a BPCR round or rifle but it does show that this powder is doing well across the board.
    It has been impressive enough for me to purchase this powder. I have loaded ammo but due to health problems have no test work myself to post.
    Thanks for taking time to post your screen test John Boy.Later David
    I always considered the 44 WCF a blackpowder cartridge, guess I was misinformed.

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    Rafe I'm going to take a WAG here and bet that David was talking about a BPCR round such as for Sillouette, Buffalo gong matches etc.....
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    OK, I guess I misunderstood what he was trying to say, thanks for the info.

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    Don, First I thank you for the stand in and second you are dead on the nail head.
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    Lot #!

    Quote Originally Posted by cajun shooter View Post
    The Kik Lot #3910 that is being sold by Powder Inc has shown great results as tested by W30wcf also. He posted a string of videos that shows his results with the lever action rifle in 44-40.
    I know this is not a BPCR round or rifle but it does show that this powder is doing well across the board.
    It has been impressive enough for me to purchase this powder. I have loaded ammo but due to health problems have no test work myself to post.
    Thanks for taking time to post your screen test John Boy.Later David
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    Hmmm...I do believe the Lot # is 2910!

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    Anytime David. Happy New Year to you.
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    Don: Loaded up the rest of the Swiss and have 250 rounds. Waiting in breathless anticipation for May.

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    For May??

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    Don: Loaded up the rest of the Swiss and have 250 rounds. Waiting in breathless anticipation for May.
    IMO...it doesn't really pay to load up ammo months prior to a match! The brass will stress relieve itself over that period of time and you'll have inconsistent neck tension big time!

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    Rick hush.... We need all the help we can get, to get ahead of that Hydraulic character. That man can shoot and shoot quite well
    Charles we'll look forward to seeing you then.
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    Neck tension

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    Please pay NO ATTENTION to my previous posting!! I don't know what I'm talking about! Been sippin in the FAMOUS GROUSE!!
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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check