.500 bullet from 45 ACP

[475AR]

How is it going with the development of the .500 bullets? Any idea on ship times?

[RANGER RICK]

I really like the looks of the bullets .
Just might have to jump on the train.

RR

[BT Sniper]

Sending them off to be nitride processed and will deliver soon!

Thanks for your patience and support.

Brian

[DukeInFlorida]

Received my dies. Follow up soon!

[RANGER RICK]

Duke
Do you have a 50 AE your going to test a few in ??
I know they will work out of my 500 Smith and my 500 Cyrus but not sure on the 50 AE ??
I am looking to get a set of these dies
Thanks

RR

[DukeInFlorida]

I do NOT have a 50 AE to try them in.

Do you have a 50 AE???

I'd send you some samples if you did.
We would, of course, want a follow up report, with pictures.

Let me know.

[RANGER RICK]

Duke

I do have a 50 AE and I would love to try a few and give a follow up when tested .
Thanks
I will PM you with my address.

RR

[DukeInFlorida]

They will go out today.

My ability to ship them so fast has everything to do with how simple it is to make the bullets, using Brian's tools!

[BT Sniper]

With the 50 AE the only concern is the short length of nose required for the bullet. As I recall I designed these bullets to work in the AE as well but something to keep in mind is that we can still mount these bullets in a case trimmer and trim the nose back a little. Not that this should be required for anyone to shoot these bullets, it is just a fun fact.

Keep it safe and good shooting.

BT

[RANGER RICK]

Thanks for the heads up BT .
Looking forward to loading a few up , should be fun for sure.

RR

[DukeInFlorida]

Brian,

What was your trick for folding in the nose on these bullets????

[BT Sniper]

Instead of a 255 grain 45 cal core I used a 240 grain 44 cal core. That gave us the 15 grain void in the top of the jacket of the formed bullet. Then with a special insert for the universal die I rolled the tip over then formed it again in the point form die to finish the tip. Had to adjust the die for the now shorter bullet but that is how it was done. More work then needed IMOP vs. using the 255 grain core for perfect formed bullets with less steps but of course I would be happy to provide you the necessary tools. Would need a different HP nose punch then the "Nosler" style I provided you.

Looking at the Hornady bullet makes me think they used a LOT thicker jacket then the 45 ACP we are using, I would have to cut one in half to tell. They didn't have to fold anything over, that jacket is just that thick from the looks of it.

BT

[DukeInFlorida]

So, maybe with a concave bullet seating die of some sort, I might be able to roll the nose in. I'll have to check my bullet seating dies to try and find one that would be concave enough. Or, maybe a proper "top punch" on my Lyman 4500. Use a strong flat washer on top of the sizing die to keep the bullet from going in. Hmmmm... ideas ideas ideas...

[RANGER RICK]

Duke

Found some goodies waiting in the post office for me this morning .Those are some fine looking bullets for sure .
looking forward to loading these up in my 50 AE.
Will give a follow up with pictures soon.
Thank you very much

RR

[DukeInFlorida]

You're welcome. I've made up about 200 more since then.
Once I get a die set, it's extremely EASY to run a large volume through the system. And, every die that's involved it very easy to set up.
The toughest job is setting in the cannelure. Might have to develop a better way to install the cannelure.

I have a pulled muscle in my back (probably from swaging when I haven't done anything physical in months.), and will have to wait a bit for the muscle to calm down before doing much more.

I still owe everyone pictures of the steps in the swaging of the .500's from 45 acp. I wish I had Brian's camera skills.

[GunWhoreDer]

Duke

Found some goodies waiting in the post office for me this morning .Those are some fine looking bullets for sure .
looking forward to loading these up in my 50 AE.
Will give a follow up with pictures soon.
Thank you very much

RR

I for one have a few .50AE Pistols and would love to see your report.
Would making them for the .50AE be better if using .45GAP Brass?
Would .45GAP Brass work for both .50AE and .500S&W Projectiles?
Thanks, GunWhoreDer

[GunWhoreDer]

You're welcome. I've made up about 200 more since then.
Once I get a die set, it's extremely EASY to run a large volume through the system. And, every die that's involved it very easy to set up.
The toughest job is setting in the cannelure. Might have to develop a better way to install the cannelure.

I have a pulled muscle in my back (probably from swaging when I haven't done anything physical in months.), and will have to wait a bit for the muscle to calm down before doing much more.

I still owe everyone pictures of the steps in the swaging of the .500's from 45 acp. I wish I had Brian's camera skills.

Welcome to Florida Duke, Hope you back is feeling good. I would love to see those pictures of the steps in the swaging of the .500's from 45 acp you offered to post. Thanks, GunWhoreDer

[LoopSoosStroop]

Sacrilege...!

What a waste of 45 brass...

[BT Sniper]

45 brass is a little easier to come by over here. Besides we only use the "scrap" brass for jackets. Better then sending it to China!

BT

[DukeInFlorida]

Here's my write up, complete with pictures:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...Magnum-Die-set

Welcome to Florida Duke, Hope you back is feeling good. I would love to see those pictures of the steps in the swaging of the .500's from 45 acp you offered to post. Thanks, GunWhoreDer