I would rechamber one with either twist. The 30-40 is great and I don't need the heavies anyway.
I would rechamber one with either twist. The 30-40 is great and I don't need the heavies anyway.
This will go off topic on this older topic, but any 30-30 single shot guys should look at this auction: Rossi Single Shot 7.62x39. It is more of a "buy it now" with free shipping, I have no stake in it
I've had a couple of Handi's; 223 Rem, 30-30 Win, 35 Rem, and two 444 Marlins. Hands down, I felt the Rossi's were better. I've owned them chambered in 308 Win, 7.62x39, 44 Mag, rechambered a 44 Mag to 444 Marlin, and a 45-70. Of all of these, Handi's and Rossi's, the only one I regret getting rid of was the Rossi 7.62x39. My rifle was cut to the SAAMI spec, .300 bore, .310 groove, and with a 9.45 twist.
I have more guns than a small town gun store so, though tempted, I'm not going to buy it even though I want it. Thought I would mention it to you single shot guys that are trying to feed an addiction.
Michael
I recently had one of my Handi's rechambered to a 7.62 x 39 and it's a joy to shoot. I had Tim Malcolm (forum member) do the work and it seems to be spot on. That Rossi looks good but since I already have a single shot 7.62 x 39 I'll pass.
I have an old topper 30-30 with a redone 2# trigger pull that shoots a 170 grain lee flatnose lubbed with alox and 20 grains of BLC-2 into 7/8 inch at 100 yards. Beats my Thompson encore with an mgm barrel and 2# trigger with the same load by 1/4 inch. Best 2 cast boolit guns I own. Working on my new henry 30-30 now!!
I posted earlier ( like 2007 or so ) that I have one. A few months ago I had it rechambered to 30/30 a.i.
Next weekend I'll try a few a.i. loads, but am having a ball just shooting fire forming loads.
Tom
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Did I ever mention that I hate to trim brass?
I've had an SB2 Handi in .30-30 for about 20 years. It was made with an 1 in 10" rifling twist so I reamed the chamber for .30-30AI, 40 degree. Now I shoot 200 to 220 grain cast flat nose boolits in it with accuracy to 2000 fps. Cases seem to last nearly forever and accuracy hovers around 1.5 MOA from 100 to 250 yards.
3030ai seems interesting. My 3030 handi was a factory fit barrel to my sb2 4570, just because. I like 3030 and was sending it in for a 20ga and 357mag barrel setup. Well after I had the 3030 for a couple years I found it to have excessive headzpace,, REALLY factory fit and they couldnt get that right! It's so deep I get liggt strikes, other barrels are great.So, what $$$ and who is reccomendrd for a ream to AI? Or, better yet,is there a "shared reamer" out there?
Thanks for any help.
“You don’t practice until you get it right. You practice until you can’t get it wrong.” Jason Elam, All-Pro kicker, Denver Broncos
Since the 30/30 AND the AI both headspace on the rim, you will still have excessive head space. If you size your cases to seat on the shoulder instead of the rim, there is no "need" to re-chamber. You will have to rely on hand loads to eliminate headspace or have the rim cut shimmed to give proper headspacing on the rim.
As a 30Herrett shooter, I just set it up on the shoulder. Pain in the rear when I get some of that brass mixed with the other. Yes, I could stand to be better organized, but a 3030 AI would keep my brass easy and.... I don't have one of those ..yet
“You don’t practice until you get it right. You practice until you can’t get it wrong.” Jason Elam, All-Pro kicker, Denver Broncos
rking22, ulav8r is right, just rechambering won't help, the barrel has to be set further back against the breech in some way.
As an expediency, headspacing on the shoulder (AI or not) can be done, as long as you don't share brass with another 30/30. It is accomplished starting with new or other-gun brass by necking it up to the next caliber (8mm or so) then then necking it back down to .30 only as far as needed to get it to chamber. Then the bump on the 2-diameter neck will hold the rim against the breech.
I give loading advice based on my actual results in factory rifles with standard chambers, twist rates and basic accurizing.
My goals for using cast boolits are lots of good, cheap, and reasonably accurate shooting, while avoiding overly tedious loading processes.
The BHN Deformation Formula, and why I don't use it.
How to find and fix sizing die eccentricity problems.
Do you trust your casting thermometer?
A few musings.
A small pony-tail rubber band placed around the base of the brass will help keep the cartridge against the breech face, then just be careful not to bump the shoulder back, segregate the brass.
More "This is what happened when I,,,,," and less "What would happen if I,,,,"
Last of the original Group Buy Honcho's.
"Dueling should have never been made illegal in this country. It settled lots of issues between folks."- Char-Gar
I took two old H&R 30-30s in trade a while back. One of my customers was looking for a small caliber rifle for his two daughters so I made a new barrel for one in 32 S&W so he could use it to train the two girls and still have the 30-30 barrel for when they got old enough to hunt with him. I have had to many projects so little time to try out the other H&R.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |