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    Go here. Look under bullets

    http://www.ch4d.com/
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    GRUMPA,
    i see someone other than my self has a trimmer head made by Fred Bertelsman. mine has been sitting around for years. now i know what to do with it. just have to make a pilot for the .40 s&w case. thanks for the idea.
    Rick

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    Rick459,
    If your going to make a pilot for the 40's for swaging, keep in mind the shorter the brass the more prone to hitting the internal webbing. I had to shorten mine at least .020 and put on a large chamfer to clear the webbing. And Fred does a remarkable job, very professional.
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    right their folks is why I like this forum. Grumpa just saved Rick459 a bunch of hassle by sharing a little tip.

    Well done guys.

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    Smile .451 swage bullet for 45LC

    Just curious about using this swage bullet for the 45 Long Colt.
    Reading the specs. of the 45 LC bullet thru WIKIPEDIA, it says:

    Lead bullet --.454"

    Jacketed-----.452"

    My swage bullet is .451 if this OK to use then good news for me..

    Pls! confirm.

    Thanks.

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    Wikipedia is wrong, or at least out of date. The .45 Colt was changed from .454" right after World War II. Prior to that, they were bored .454", but that hasn't been the case in over 60 years.

    I size my lead bullets for the .45 Colt .452". Your swaged bullet at .451" won't cause any problems, unless it's for an older barrel. If that's the case, they just won't be real accurate. You'll know how it works when you shoot some through your firearm............

    Hope this helps.

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    WIKIPEDIA is quick access to cartridge info but not always accurate. I have found a few errors in their info as well. Better off checking more then one source and possibly a credited one along the lines of published reloading manuals. As far as the .451 in the 45LC...... only one way to find out . Keep it safe and good shooting.

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    Did you trim your case for 45LC?
    240 Grain is an ideal weight for 45 LC
    I have a lead bullet (Factory bullet) with RNFP Weighing 250 GRN.

    What's the final lenght of the bullet after swaging?

    Thanks for sharing..

    cobrarolex

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    Thanks for the info: ReloaderFred

    Now I can go ahead and reload some 45LC.

    cobrarolex

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    Thank's Brian..

    I'll look into that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobrarolex View Post
    Did you trim your case for 45LC?
    240 Grain is an ideal weight for 45 LC
    I have a lead bullet (Factory bullet) with RNFP Weighing 250 GRN.

    What's the final lenght of the bullet after swaging?

    Thanks for sharing..

    cobrarolex
    I did not trim the 40cal case for the 45LC boolit. And the final length of the 45LC boolit is .770.

    Just remember to weigh them together (8mm BB, lead core, brass) and adjust with lead shot accordingly and swage. After that it's swaging time. And when I get my canalure tool from Santa I can whip out a batch of those and have some fun.
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    So you can now take a 40 cal fired brass and turn it into a 45 cal projectile in just one die?

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    Not just 1 die, it's actually 3 total.
    Last edited by GRUMPA; 11-05-2011 at 10:59 AM.
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    On the 45 Colt bullets, I thought that they were most accurate if the bullet was sized to correctly fit the cylinder throat. The throats can be .454 or more. Sized like this, there is a much better gas seal and it helps to keep the bullet straight so that it enters the barrel straight.

    The smaller bullets will shoot fine, but you may not get as good of accuracy as your gun could produce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MIBULLETS View Post
    On the 45 Colt bullets, I thought that they were most accurate if the bullet was sized to correctly fit the cylinder throat. The throats can be .454 or more. Sized like this, there is a much better gas seal and it helps to keep the bullet straight so that it enters the barrel straight.

    The smaller bullets will shoot fine, but you may not get as good of accuracy as your gun could produce.
    Your right about that, but as far as J-words I would tend to think the pressures would be on the high side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRUMPA View Post
    Rick459,
    If your going to make a pilot for the 40's for swaging, keep in mind the shorter the brass the more prone to hitting the internal webbing. I had to shorten mine at least .020 and put on a large chamfer to clear the webbing. And Fred does a remarkable job, very professional.
    GRUMPA,
    thanks for the tip.
    Rick

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    My pleasure Rick, that's what this site is all about...
    Click to see what I'm doing and have available, this takes you to the VS (Vendor Sponsor) section of the site. Currently..25Rem,30Rem, 32Rem, 35Rem, 257Roberts, 358Win, 338Fed, 357 Herrett, 30 Herrett, 401 Winchester, 300Sav, 221 Fireball, 260Rem, 222Rem, 250 Savage, 8mm Mauser (AKA 8x57), 25-20WCF

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    Grumpa,

    Thank's for the info:

    I now can make some 45LC bullet But no .BB's since I don't have the concave punch yet.

    cobrarolex

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    Your welcome just glad to help folks along the best I can.
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