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Thread: Rhineland 45 ACP Kit

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    Will an 1893 work?

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    The barrel came off without too much fuss, but it was not a walk in the park.

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    I am not done yet but I got my kit together enough to test fire it today. I feed three full mags through it. Everything worked good. No idea of accuracy yet as I do not have any sights. I really like the feel of the rifle, short and handy. It is quiet. Not 22 quiet but no hearing protection required. This is going to be a very fun rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Will an 1893 work?
    Yes, a 93 action will work BUT I had to modify the front lower edge of the bolt on mine. I ground away the flat bottom edge into a round bolt face. I had to do this to properly clear the magazine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gibson View Post
    My sporter has a 2.5X Weaver in Redfield base and rings. I don't plan on putting iron on it as my eyes don't do well with such on short barrels these days. However, If I were I would put a Lyman SME receiver rear and a base with an M14 sight up front.

    The Chinese Officers Model has a TC Contender base D7T'd onto the barrel whare the rear sight would be. The handguard is then inletted to fit over it. A red dot (as pictured) or a scout scope can then be mounted.

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    PS; additionally to the things i mentioned above I also shortened the firing pin protrusion to minimum as I set the headspace to minimum. Standard protrusion really thunks the primers. Accuracy improved with the shortened firing pin.

    I'm glad you mentioned this tidbit Larry. I had forgotten to mention it myself. My firing pin actually pierced the primers on the first few cartridges. I also shortened it to a minimal protrusion. Also I found that shortening the firing pin a bit had helped the feeding of the cartridge into battery on the bolt face.

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    well i guess i'm gona start my own now, i bought an action today, it's a '95 i think. but the cool thing is it's already D&T'ed, and the bolt turned down very nicely. it's a complete rifle that Bubba done got to, so it will work fine.

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    Are these now being made using directly threaded barrels, or what looks like a .45acp Uzi barrel with a pressed on thread adapter,,, like the older ones ?

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    The kit barrels are threaded for the action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badgeredd View Post
    The kit barrels are threaded for the action.

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    Thats a good thing

    I have one of the older kits, that was made with a pressed-on thread adapter.
    I finally ended up spot welding the adapter to the barrel and dressed it down in the lathe.
    Never moved on me while shooting, but always spun during barrel install or removal.

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    This looks like a fun project! I can see uses for this gun for sure. It is definately the close range itteration of the Ruger Gunsite Carbine.

    Has anyone done one with a folding stock, like a Paratrooper style?

    I can't for the life of me understand why they didn't didn't design the M1 Carbine around the .45 ACP instead of the 'New' cartridge. Seems like it would have worked much better.

    I know at one time back in the late 70's there was a guy in Michigan advertsing in the NRA mag who was doing conversions to M1Carbines to .45 Win Mag. Has anyone seen one of those?

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    I have a small ring turk, Sorry my Mauser knowledge is limited. Would this be a good candidate for such a conversion ? and would any one know where I could get 'bottom metal" for said mauser ?

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    greywuuf, you should be able to measure the action screws, and tell what trigger gaurd you need. i'm thinkin' there is three different length trigger gaurds.

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    Kit has been shipped and should be here soon!

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    This is a project that I'm itching to do. The local pawn/gunshop owner built 2 of them, and he's testing his now.

    I'm on the hunt for a donor rifle. The only one I have now is a Yugo, and I understand that they're not a good option for this. Besides, the one I have is a shooter and too "nice" to cut on.

    Does anyone have a good source out there for inexpensive donor rifles for this?
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    Kit arrived today! Threads on the barrel were a little oversized but a few minutes in the lathe with a flat file and a triangular file made the barrel able to be threaded into the receiver by hand.
    I need to do some modification in the mill to the trigger guard/ floor plate to allow it to accept the aluminum block because the one I have is a sheet metal stamping.

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    I milled the floor plate and fitted the magazine block, modified the barrel to fit the inleting of the stock, shortened the front of the stock. I am sanding and filling some cracks in the stock. The next step will be to clean up the metal parts the best I can and paint them flat black. The metal parts are pitted from sitting in salt water for a couple of weeks and are real rough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W.R.Buchanan View Post
    This looks like a fun project! I can see uses for this gun for sure. It is definately the close range itteration of the Ruger Gunsite Carbine.

    Has anyone done one with a folding stock, like a Paratrooper style?

    I can't for the life of me understand why they didn't didn't design the M1 Carbine around the .45 ACP instead of the 'New' cartridge. Seems like it would have worked much better.

    I know at one time back in the late 70's there was a guy in Michigan advertsing in the NRA mag who was doing conversions to M1Carbines to .45 Win Mag. Has anyone seen one of those?

    Randy
    I remember reading about that conversion. Always wanted one after that.

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    Getting close to being shootable! Iphone inverts the pic, sorry
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    Looking Good , I got a friend of mine that was "in" to old mausers and stock carving, combing his "junk" pile for a decent Milsurp stock and a floor plate for my 93. Soon as my overtime check comes in I will be ordering myself a kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltaenterprizes View Post
    Getting close to being shootable! Iphone inverts the pic, sorry
    I really like the looks of the full stock treatment. Nice job! I finally found some sights for mine and I have been pleasantly surprised with it. I had a little problem with one magazine not wanting to feed correctly but a different mag cured that. I shot up some FMJ hard ball ammo and then some hard cast round nose boolits. I have some Truncated cone boolits aging right now to try eventually. Hopefully I can get out the chronograph and check the velocity before much longer. Fun little toy!

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